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The First Century Void
#61
RE: The First Century Void
The last paragraph isn't the one in dispute.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#62
RE: The First Century Void
Here's a hint. All the paragraphs flow seamlessly and narratively one to another. There is one exception. Three guesses.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#63
RE: The First Century Void
$10 that he doesn't see it.

Big Grin
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#64
RE: The First Century Void
Let's get back to the topic. What do you say about that void ha? I mean how come no church ever preserved records of Christ family like census and tax receipts from the government, documenting their family relations, births, property, place of residence, and taxes paid, among other things such as deeds and contracts? This would also include documents pertaining to any trials they were involved in (civil or criminal); and copies of any letters they received (which they surely would have received if they were at all involved in the church administration and mission after Jesus' death).

I mean we know churches had the means and interest in preserving letters like some Paul's letters but no Christ family - someone may think they never existed. And even those Paul letters that are preserved there would have been hundreds of letters written in the first century, both from numerous other apostles and communication between churches, in great quantity, from every decade beginning with Paul.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#65
RE: The First Century Void
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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#66
RE: The First Century Void
Tekton apologetics? To paraphrase Mandy Rice-Davies:
"Well they would say that, wouldn't they?"
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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#67
RE: The First Century Void
Right, okay, got it. The only two disputed references in the whole body of work, with one relying totally on the authenticity of the other, and it's a stylistic choice of the writer. That's that cleared up.

Notice that yet again, no attempt at my little challenge. Thinking
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#68
RE: The First Century Void
Apologists make excuses for bullshit.  It's what they do.

The interrupted flow of the writing is obvious to all but the thickest of apologetic assholes but the principal objection remains the simple fact that no writer - not even jesus freak writers - knew fuckall about it until Eusebius forged it in the 4th century.
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#69
RE: The First Century Void
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#70
RE: The First Century Void
Are Christians still trying to argue the  forgery of Josephus isn't a forgery . Wow just wow .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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