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Is atheism self-contradictory ?
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 (June 25, 2017 at 1:00 pm)Parsim0ny Wrote:(June 25, 2017 at 12:57 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Fruedian slip? Yep. Muhammed's night journey. No more needs to be said. You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.   (June 25, 2017 at 1:00 pm)Parsim0ny Wrote: I mean seriously. just type the word Muhammad in your search engine and ask yourself if his biography is that of a crazy man who talks nonsense. I'm concerned that you think the word "seriously" has any natural place in that sentence. As with Joseph Smith, L Ron Hubbard and all the rest, "crazy man who talks nonsense" is pretty much the entire job description.
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June 25, 2017 at 1:24 pm
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(June 25, 2017 at 1:01 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Yes, it's the biography of a crazy man who talks nonsense, or a story about a crazy character who talks nonsense. Difficult to say, between the two, at times. The content of the Qur'an is too sophisticated to be the work of the person you're talking about. It's now a question about whether you're honest in stating your real thoughts about our holy book, or reluctant to even read it because of the countless stereotypes regarding our religion.  ![[Image: circularreasoning.jpg]](https://piedtype.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/circularreasoning.jpg)
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June 25, 2017 at 1:27 pm
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(June 25, 2017 at 1:24 pm)Parsim0ny Wrote: The content of the Qur'an is too sophisticated to be the work of the person you're talking about. That's the claim. Now it's down to you to support it and make your case.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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June 25, 2017 at 1:31 pm
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1. you are assuming god created a perfect brain . On top of assuming god has a perfect brain .
2. Your assuming that nothing aside god can create a reliable brain . The imperfections of our brain and thinking are a fact if they were not then we would have no need for science, logic ,or math or philosophy or any form of study. 3. It is a baseless assertion that everything that begins to exist has a cause . It's also a baseless assertion that the universe had beginning or a cause. Quote:The content of the Qur'an is too sophisticated to be the work of the person you're talking about. The Quran like every other so called holy book is a development of gradual cultural evolution. It was not created in a vacuum. But even if it wasn't this is clearly an argument from incredulity .
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June 25, 2017 at 1:36 pm
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(June 25, 2017 at 1:24 pm)Parsim0ny Wrote:(June 25, 2017 at 1:01 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Yes, it's the biography of a crazy man who talks nonsense, or a story about a crazy character who talks nonsense. Difficult to say, between the two, at times. Agreed, it's the work of all of the people Mighty Mo cribbed his stories from, his ghostwriters, and from later generations of compilers. Frankly, the quran being too sophistiated to have been the work of mo is a problem for you...not anyone else. I think that your holy book is garbage, and questions as to my character are yet another fallacious argument to heap on the muslim pile of base irrationality. "Crazy can't write a book" - says who? "Crazy can't found a religion" - says who? "Crazy can't start a war" .....says.....who.....?
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(June 25, 2017 at 11:44 am)Minimalist Wrote: Completely wrong. As far as I can see Big Mo is no more real than jesus, or moses. Just another mouthpiece for some god. Thus, I do not condemn your boy for raping 9 year olds or slaughtering unbelievers because these things did not happen. They were created as apparently examples of good behavior by the morons who invented Big Mo in the first place. Now, stop being a fool and go try some bacon. It will improve your life and then wash it down with a beer. Muslims have to be the most, dour, unhappy, uptight people in the world! Completely wrong.  [/quote] All you need is evidence, pal. BTW, your fucking koran is not evidence... it is the claim. The bible has the same problem and jesus freaks can't solve it either. (June 25, 2017 at 1:27 pm)Cyberman Wrote:(June 25, 2017 at 1:24 pm)Parsim0ny Wrote: The content of the Qur'an is too sophisticated to be the work of the person you're talking about. Take any other 1400 years old book talking about nature and the universe, you'll immediately discover hundreds of inconsistencies with the current state of knowledge. And therefore it is safe to assume that it cannot be the word of God. The Qur'an contains hundreds of verses talking about the observable universe and none of them - unless you have one - seems to be obviously wrong or contradicting basic modern science facts, this is already impossible to achieve by someone who lived more than thousand years ago. For example in chapter 21 verse 30 we can read "Do the disbelievers not see that the heavens and the earth were one mass, and We tore them apart?" . If the universe turned out to be eternal, this verse will simply be FALSE. But current physics tells us that all the universe was indeed one mass and was torn apart in an incredibly short amount of time. How can anyone from the 7th century come up with anything even remotely close to our current knowledge of the universe ? |
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