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Sherry · (This post was last modified: October 7, 2010 at 10:59 am by Sherry.)

When hearing an account of deconversion I have heard some atheists say that they are glad to hear that "I had a bad experience at church or was mistreated by Christians" as NOT being the reason for someone leaving the faith. Why would they be glad to hear that wasn't the reason?

Anomalocaris · (This post was last modified: October 7, 2010 at 2:32 pm by Anomalocaris.)

(October 7, 2010 at 10:51 am)Sherry Wrote: I have heard some atheists say that they are glad to hear that "I had a bad experience at church or was mistreated by Christians" as not being the reason for leaving the faith. Why would they be glad to hear that wasn't the reason?

Because that doesn't touch the real reason why it is a disgrace for an educated adult to chose to be a Christian in the age of science and reason. It is as if one believes 2 and 2 makes 4 merely because one had a bad experience trying to fit in with the 2 and 2 makes 3 crowd, and not because one has devleoped any appreciation of the testable arithmetic principle.

Sherry · (This post was last modified: October 7, 2010 at 10:58 am by Sherry.)

(October 7, 2010 at 10:55 am)Chuck Wrote:
(October 7, 2010 at 10:51 am)Sherry Wrote: I have heard some atheists say that they are glad to hear that "I had a bad experience at church or was mistreated by Christians" as not being the reason for leaving the faith. Why would they be glad to hear that wasn't the reason?

Because that doesn't strike at the heart of why it is a disgrace for an educated adult to chose to be a Christian in the age of science and reason.

I think you misunderstood the question, I was referring to testimonies of DECONVERSION.

Anomalocaris · (This post was last modified: October 7, 2010 at 11:03 am by Anomalocaris.)

Perhaps increased familiarity with what they converted to enabled them to find it was inappropriate to have converted in the first place?

Sherry · October 7, 2010 at 11:06 am

So what would make testimonies of deconversion that does not indicate they left because they were hurt by the church make the testimony more acceptable?

Anomalocaris · October 7, 2010 at 11:12 am

Testimonies and private reasons fir decisions are what they are.

**leo-rcc** · October 7, 2010 at 11:22 am

(October 7, 2010 at 10:51 am)Sherry Wrote: Why would they be glad to hear that wasn't the reason?

Probably because then the reason for deconversion is just an emotional response, not a rational reasoning.

Sherry · October 7, 2010 at 11:26 am

(October 7, 2010 at 11:22 am)leo-rcc Wrote:
(October 7, 2010 at 10:51 am)Sherry Wrote: Why would they be glad to hear that wasn't the reason?

Probably because then the reason for deconversion is just an emotional response, not a rational reasoning.

Sounds good. Deconversion because of getting hurt by the church would seem to dimish the validity of becoming an atheist at least for that person. Rationality should be the reason, if any, rather than anger.

**thesummerqueen** · October 7, 2010 at 11:31 am

Plus, I personally would rather not hear of a friend deconverting because of emotional or physical abuse by someone in their Church, if you want to take mistreatment to that level. I include the "you're going to hell" statements made in some of the fundamentalist and Baptist churches I've come across. Horrible thing to tell a person.

Anomalocaris · (This post was last modified: October 7, 2010 at 11:44 am by Anomalocaris.)

(October 7, 2010 at 11:26 am)Sherry Wrote:
(October 7, 2010 at 11:22 am)leo-rcc Wrote:
(October 7, 2010 at 10:51 am)Sherry Wrote: Why would they be glad to hear that wasn't the reason?

Probably because then the reason for deconversion is just an emotional response, not a rational reasoning.

Sounds good. Deconversion because of getting hurt by the church would seem to dimish the validity of becoming an atheist at least for that person. Rationality should be the reason, if any, rather than anger.

None of the christian churches i've had any contacts with would be so particular if that was given as the reason for conversion rather than deconversion. At the very least the church would grasp at the perceived opening. In fact reasons just like this were video taped with glee for later dissemination as "testimonial".

(October 7, 2010 at 11:31 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: Plus, I personally would rather not hear of a friend deconverting because of emotional or physical abuse by someone in their Church, if you want to take mistreatment to that level. I include the "you're going to hell" statements made in some of the fundamentalist and Baptist churches I've come across. Horrible thing to tell a person.

Well, not so horrible. I would rather go to hell than disseminate the uninformed tattle of fundamentalism.

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