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Poll: So would you support the choice?
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I hereby wholeheartedly put forth my support(that'll be 3 dollars)
31.58%
6 31.58%
No, I don't support it, I'll give my reasons below.
15.79%
3 15.79%
Everything is fine the way it is right now.
15.79%
3 15.79%
This poll is rigged, man. Fuck polls.
36.84%
7 36.84%
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My question to pro-choice supporters
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RE: My question to pro-choice supporters
(July 5, 2017 at 11:28 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: In instances like that, I believe the man should not be held accountable for child support.  

Yes, I am pro-choice for the woman to do what she wants with her body, but she has no right to ensnare a man into child support when he does not want anything to do with the baby.

I feel if the man is not desirous of siring offspring he should be availing himself of my delectable goodness.


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#12
RE: My question to pro-choice supporters
(July 5, 2017 at 11:52 pm)Jesster Wrote: She does have a point, though. There's really no reason not to pursue male birth control options. What could that possibly hurt? There's always going to be people with gaps in protection, but this would close that gap a lot more.

I was not discounting the male birth control option.

In fact, it is something I would support.

However, men tend to remain children most of their lives; which includes areas of responsibility. I highly doubt most men who merely want to engage in sex for the pleasure are going to be responsible enough to take a pill. It is not coded in the typical male DNA to be responsible.

It is sad that in most cases it is the woman's responsibility to not become pregnant, but then again it is her body. Her body, her choice.
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#13
RE: My question to pro-choice supporters
(July 5, 2017 at 11:56 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:
(July 5, 2017 at 11:52 pm)Jesster Wrote: She does have a point, though. There's really no reason not to pursue male birth control options. What could that possibly hurt? There's always going to be people with gaps in protection, but this would close that gap a lot more.

I was not discounting the male birth control option.

In fact, it is something I would support.

However, men tend to remain children most of their lives; which includes areas of responsibility.  I highly doubt most men who merely want to engage in sex for the pleasure are going to be responsible enough to take a pill.  It is not coded in the typical male DNA to be responsible.

It depends on the man. I guess I give men more credit than you do, but there are enough who fit your quoted description as well. Not all women practice safe sex options and not all men will either. Having one more option out there for the sex who currently has the fewest options is likely going to help a lot. There will of course be people on both sides who will ignore these options, but the gap will be far smaller than before.
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#14
RE: My question to pro-choice supporters
I was just thinking:

His body, his choice....if he is spilling his seed willy nilly in any available woman without worrying about the consequences, perhaps having an implemented law whereby if he can show he is on the pill he can be excused from legal monetary obligations to the child.

Such a law would force men to be more responsible in the area of sex.
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#15
RE: My question to pro-choice supporters
As a child forced to grow up in a single parent household without ever knowing a father and desperately wanting one, and having to endure extreme poverty as a result, that anyone could possibly think it's even remotely okay not to hold a biological father accountable for anything is absolutely vomit-inducing. How is there zero empathy or thought being put into this in the first few posts here?
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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#16
RE: My question to pro-choice supporters
I disagree completely.
People fuck without protection knowing that a child can result.

I just can't get my head around people treating a fetus like it's just an inconvenience to their first world problems.
Maybe I'm just an old fashioned fuddy duddy? I think I am.

OK, another deep south style granular question.
At what stage can the father pull out of all responsibilities? (pardon the pun)?
Is this a verbal agreement between the two involved?
Can he pull out at the last minute because her pregnancy interferes with his footy training on the day!? Lol?
You guys are funny....
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#17
RE: My question to pro-choice supporters
(July 6, 2017 at 12:22 am)ignoramus Wrote: I disagree completely.
People fuck without protection knowing that a child can result.

I just can't get my head around people treating a fetus like it's just an inconvenience to their first world problems.
Maybe I'm just an old fashioned fuddy duddy? I think I am.

OK, another deep south style granular question.
At what stage can the father pull out of all responsibilities? (pardon the pun)?
Is this a verbal agreement between the two involved?
Can he pull out at the last minute because her pregnancy interferes with his footy training on the day!? Lol?
You guys are funny....

That is the thing, though. There are two people involved in creating a child.

When the man wants the woman to keep the child, she can opt to have an abortion because it is her body and her right.

If the woman is capable of opting out of taking care of a baby by having an abortion, then the father should be capable of the same courtesy of opting out of taking care of a child with whom he wants nothing to do when the woman decides to keep it.

Why is it okay for the woman to opt out of the responsibility of taking care of a child, but not the man? They were both responsible in the creation of the fetus.

It is mere common sense that the man be afforded the same right as the woman if he does not want to care for a child.
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RE: My question to pro-choice supporters
(July 6, 2017 at 12:10 am)Astonished Wrote: As a child forced to grow up in a single parent household without ever knowing a father and desperately wanting one, and having to endure extreme poverty as a result, that anyone could possibly think it's even remotely okay not to hold a biological father accountable for anything is absolutely vomit-inducing. How is there zero empathy or thought being put into this in the first few posts here?

Sometimes the equal application of law and culpability is shitty. If somebody sideswipes my brother while he''s driving my car -my- insurance premium will go up.

 Look on the bright side, your mother could have aborted you.   Wink
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RE: My question to pro-choice supporters
(July 6, 2017 at 12:37 am)Khemikal Wrote:
(July 6, 2017 at 12:10 am)Astonished Wrote: As a child forced to grow up in a single parent household without ever knowing a father and desperately wanting one, and having to endure extreme poverty as a result, that anyone could possibly think it's even remotely okay not to hold a biological father accountable for anything is absolutely vomit-inducing. How is there zero empathy or thought being put into this in the first few posts here?

Sometimes the equal application of law and culpability is shitty.  Look on the bright side, your mother could have aborted you.   Wink

I know our conversations have had their ups and downs, but, with as little offense as possible, FUCK YOU. Not a day goes by I don't wish she had. But after all that suffering, I'll be damned if it was all for nothing. Life is not a gift and I'm not one bit grateful for it. It's my sense of justice keeping me from letting those who spent my entire childhood trying to destroy me win. Things aren't a whole lot better now than back then except that I'm dependent only on myself for sustenance. But nothing's worse than being told that god is a father, or is the father I should want or need. Telling them that he's 32 years late on child support is getting old.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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#20
RE: My question to pro-choice supporters
Eggshells and backbones.
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