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RE: Can God be seen in the maths?
July 16, 2017 at 9:23 pm
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(July 16, 2017 at 7:56 pm)Alex K Wrote: (July 14, 2017 at 7:37 am)Dropship Wrote: Alex K quote- What would it look like if something in the universe violated the laws of mathematics?..
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The famous 'Double Slit Experiment' certainly seems to violate the laws of the universe and scientists can't explain it, maybe it's one for Mulder and Scully?
Basically, when scientists place detectors to observe and monitor the photon stream, it inexplicably changes it's behaviour as if it knows it's being watched, how spooky is that?..
It doesn't violate the laws of the universe though, not even our own theory of quantum mechanics - it does violate our common sense.
I have no idea why people claim that the double-slit experiment can't be explained; if you look at J. J. Thomson's (a Nobel laureate in physics) model of the atom, it was completely and mathematically coherent, and yet, it was wrong experimentally; it made incorrect experimental predictions. Rutherford disproved it, and so, new models were developed, and so forth.
Is there things in physics that cannot be described by mathematical physics? Certainly, there are intractable problems, but if General Relativity lead to some erroneous predictions (and, it may under some very extreme conditions, as according to some), then either GR will be modified or it will be abandoned if and when a better theory with explanatory power comes along. Theism, on the other hand, makes absolutely no predictions of any kind, nor does it explain anything; at best it is substituting one mystery (the Universe's explanation) for another (God's explanation). But, as I pointed out elsewhere Schrodinger's equation implies that the Universe is eternal with no beginning and no end.
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RE: Can God be seen in the maths?
July 17, 2017 at 7:01 am
Quote:Schrodinger's equation implies that the Universe is eternal with no beginning and no end.
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RE: Can God be seen in the maths?
July 17, 2017 at 7:39 am
I would interject that the simple Schrödinger equation assumes a fixed spacetime on which it operates and can't simply be used if space and time become dynamic and fluctuate, e.g. near the big bang.
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RE: Can God be seen in the maths?
July 17, 2017 at 7:58 am
(July 17, 2017 at 7:01 am)ignoramus Wrote: Quote:Schrodinger's equation implies that the Universe is eternal with no beginning and no end.
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RE: Can God be seen in the maths?
July 17, 2017 at 8:03 am
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RE: Can God be seen in the maths?
July 17, 2017 at 1:24 pm
(July 17, 2017 at 7:39 am)Alex K Wrote: I would interject that the simple Schrödinger equation assumes a fixed spacetime on which it operates and can't simply be used if space and time become dynamic and fluctuate, e.g. near the big bang.
True -- of course, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle forbids an area, however small, of absolute no energy, and so, where one has energy, one has space time curvature.
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RE: Can God be seen in the maths?
July 17, 2017 at 3:27 pm
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