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Can God be seen in the maths?
#91
RE: Can God be seen in the maths?
You poor bastards still drinking Fosters? We couldn't give it away here?

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#92
RE: Can God be seen in the maths?
Well guys i think this sensational Can God be seen in the maths? thread of mine has just about run its course and we can conclude that it's stalemated because some scientists say they can see him, but others say they can't..Smile
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#93
RE: Can God be seen in the maths?
(July 12, 2017 at 5:47 am)Dropship Wrote: Well guys i think this sensational Can God be seen in the maths?  thread of mine has just about run its course and we can conclude that it's stalemated because some scientists say they can see him, but others say they can't..Smile

The top scientists dont, and it still would not make magic babies real or zombie gods real.
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#94
RE: Can God be seen in the maths?
Brian37 quote- The top scientists dont, and it still would not make magic babies real or zombie gods real.
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1- That gives rise to the question- how can we tell who the "top" scientists are?

2- The word "gods" is oldfashioned nowadays, so maybe we should start thinking of them as aliens who have visited the earth in one form or another?
For example scientist Frank Drake (dunno if he's a "top") estimates there are thousands of intelligent alien civilisations out there-

[Image: Drake-equation_zpsybveqapb.jpg]
"According to Drake, the average of people's best estimates suggests that there are about 10,000 technically advanced civilisations spread across our galaxy"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/unive...e_equation
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#95
RE: Can God be seen in the maths?
Dropship Wrote:
Mister Agenda Wrote:

..If you've got Roman army garrison records of interacting with Jesus, that would be the strongest evidence for his existence ever discovered..

Maybe we should think "politics" and  "shredder" to explain the scarcity of official records?
When christianity began snowballing in popularity after Jesus's execution, the Jewish priests and the Romans probably said -
"Oops better not let on it was us who killed him, quick shred all the documents implicating us or we'll have a Jesusgate scandal on our hands. Let's airbrush him out of history and start hassling christians, and people will soon quickly forget about him"

That is what is known as an ad hoc explanation for absence of evidence and doesn't make the slightest difference in the case for the existence of historical Jesus. And I say that as someone who leans towards there having been a rabbi named Yeshua being the basis of the Gospel stories.

As an aside, the Romans kept plenty of records that didn't put them in a good light. And Jesus was claimed to be 'big' in the stories whose authors want you to believe he was real and the son of or incarnation of God. It's another claim, not evidence at all.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#96
RE: Can God be seen in the maths?
(July 12, 2017 at 6:37 am)Dropship Wrote: Brian37 quote- The top scientists dont, and it still would not make magic babies real or zombie gods real.
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1- That gives rise to the question- how can we tell who the "top" scientists are?

2- The word "gods" is oldfashioned nowadays, so maybe we should start thinking of them as aliens who have visited the earth in one form or another?
For example scientist Frank Drake (dunno if he's a "top") estimates there are thousands of intelligent alien civilisations out there-

[Image: Drake-equation_zpsybveqapb.jpg]
"According to Drake, the average of people's best estimates suggests that there are about 10,000 technically advanced civilisations spread across our galaxy"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/unive...e_equation

UGGGGGGGGG!

You still have yet to click on the prior post I made proving to you that every fucking religion in the world when it cant debunk science will try to co opt science to get it to point to their club.

Scientific method is not a religion. It is a process, a tool, not a dogma. 

Now again, if you think you are onto something I could give a shit less. A real test would be to debate Muslims who think science proves they are right. A real test would be to debate Jews who think science points to their club. A real test would be to debate Hindus who claim science points to them. A real test would be to debate Buddhists who claim science points to them.

It is called sample rate, pretty standard in neutral scientific method. If all you are doing is trying to retrofit science after the fact, you are merely mentally masturbating to protect a mere desire.
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#97
RE: Can God be seen in the maths?
(July 12, 2017 at 5:47 am)Dropship Wrote: Well guys i think this sensational Can God be seen in the maths?  thread of mine has just about run its course and we can conclude that it's stalemated because some scientists say they can see him, but others say they can't..Smile

Ah yes, the pigeon closer.  Shit on the board, declare victory, and take flight.

No, Drop. You were wrong, you have continued to be wrong, you are still wrong....first gods, then science, now aliens...I wonder what you're going to be wrong about next?
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#98
RE: Can God be seen in the maths?
(July 12, 2017 at 10:53 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(July 12, 2017 at 6:37 am)Dropship Wrote: Brian37 quote- The top scientists dont, and it still would not make magic babies real or zombie gods real.
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1- That gives rise to the question- how can we tell who the "top" scientists are?

2- The word "gods" is oldfashioned nowadays, so maybe we should start thinking of them as aliens who have visited the earth in one form or another?
For example scientist Frank Drake (dunno if he's a "top") estimates there are thousands of intelligent alien civilisations out there-

[Image: Drake-equation_zpsybveqapb.jpg]
"According to Drake, the average of people's best estimates suggests that there are about 10,000 technically advanced civilisations spread across our galaxy"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/unive...e_equation

UGGGGGGGGG!

You still have yet to click on the prior post I made proving to you that every fucking religion in the world when it cant debunk science will try to co opt science to get it to point to their club.

Scientific method is not a religion. It is a process, a tool, not a dogma. 

Now again, if you think you are onto something I could give a shit less. A real test would be to debate Muslims who think science proves they are right. A real test would be to debate Jews who think science points to their club. A real test would be to debate Hindus who claim science points to them. A real test would be to debate Buddhists who claim science points to them.

It is called sample rate, pretty standard in neutral scientific method. If all you are doing is trying to retrofit science after the fact, you are merely mentally masturbating to protect a mere desire.

Sorry mate, I still haven't figured out how to do the quote reply thing in AF so my apologies if I'm missing posts.
For example just replying to you now means a lot of my early stuff is cluttering up this post and I don't know how to get rid of it.
As to the matter of the historicity of Jesus, he was TOO FRIGGIN BIG to have been a myth, he was seen by thousands of eyeballs, that's why not even the snooty priests, their lackeys or the Romans dare attempt to debunk him after his execution because they knew they'd simply make laughing stocks of themselves..Smile


Khemikal quote- Drop. You were wrong, you have continued to be wrong, you are still wrong....first gods, then science, now aliens...I wonder what you're going to be wrong about next?
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Whoa Jack, I titled this stupendous thread "Can God be seen in the maths?" because I was simply asking a question, and as we've seen, some (but not all) scientists say yes, it's possible.
In other words there's no definitive answer so the thread has run its course, or does somebody want to add anything further?
EDIT- There, it's happened again, the forum system has tacked this post onto the bottom of an earlier one and it looks a right confusing mess and I'm losing track of who said what!

drfuzzy quote-  "Jesus.... clearly states that he has not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it.  Not one jot or tiddle of the law would pass away before the ending of heaven and earth."
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Right, but he demonstrated how to overlay  the Old T's harshness with decency and compassion, and people quickly cottoned on- "Through Jesus we are saved,and not through Moses" (Acts 13:39)
"Jesus saved you from the empty way of life handed you by your forefathers" (1 Peter 1:18 )

For instance the Old T required adulteresses to be stoned to death, but Jesus rescued at least one from the mob-

"On yer bikes, she's with me! Hold your head up baby!"
"Thanks JC, shall we go for a pizza?"
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#99
RE: Can God be seen in the maths?
(July 12, 2017 at 2:42 pm)Dropship Wrote: -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Whoa Jack, I titled this stupendous thread "Can God be seen in the maths?" because I was simply asking a question, and as we've seen, some (but not all) scientists say yes, it's possible.
In other words there's no definitive answer so the thread has run its course, or does somebody want to add anything further?
EDIT- There, it's happened again, the forum system has tacked this post onto the bottom of an earlier one and it looks a right confusing mess and I'm losing track of who said what!
Uh huh......

Trouble is, there -is- a definitive answer, and it's no.  God can't be "seen in the maths", the only place god can be seen is in the addled minds of god believers, same as always.  Some of which are scientists, ofc, and there would have to be a few..what with there being so many believers - brute force of numbers.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Can God be seen in the maths?
(July 11, 2017 at 7:19 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(July 11, 2017 at 6:43 pm)Cyberman Wrote: Huh Am I drunk or are you?

I might at this moment have to pull a Trump or Trump Jr and plea the 5th. Or more specifically Fosters Dark. It's like Yuengling or Guinness. Pro tip, if you like dark beer, or anyone reading this, frost a mug, and mix half Foster's Premium Ale, (in the green oil can), it is dark beer. And half Yuengling dark lager. It is as good as a half Bass half Guinness, or as commonly known a "black and tan".

Point was I was being silly. But not about the beer, if you like beer, try it.

My god, you like crap beer. You're dead to me.


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