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I want to know, why do these people hate Obama so much?
#31
RE: I want to know, why do these people hate Obama so much?
(July 16, 2017 at 3:38 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: The reason they accepted those two was they repeated the right Republican mantra's. If either of them deviated they be out faster then you can say shield . But I point out a great many ex Obama supporters of Trump voted for him because he was the "right "kind of black .

Someone in the thread just said that they hate hispanic Republicans, so I guess they only like hispanics that are the "right" kind of hispanic, and I assume that they hate Ben Carson and others like him as well, so they only like blacks that are the "right" kind of black. Do Republicans hate Obama more because of his dark skin, or is it more because they see him as un-American? Is it because he talked about them clinging to religion, which is true, but was unwise for him to say, or because of that picture of him with the headdress that the Clintons put out to try to smear him as the other, or was it the Bill Ayres thing, or him talking about wanting to fundamentally transform the United States? It was a mix of all of this, so I don't know why people just sum it up to "he's black. The end."
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#32
RE: I want to know, why do these people hate Obama so much?
They saw him as unamerican -because- of his brown skin and muslim name, you realize? The man himself was as american as apple pie. Purportedly believed in god, a friend of business, a brutally effective warlord, moms was from kansas, his daddy was on a visa to learn in the greatest country ion the world...born in honolulu... and he was a senator in Illinois, who made his nut as a constitutional lawyer....... for a faith based community initiative.

If he were any more american it would make -me- nauseous.......but that's not how people saw him, huh, lol?

Hell, his namesake achievement, lifted whole clothe from republican ideology and policies. I don;t know why anyone has an urge to pretend that anything about american (or the republicans) opposition to him was principled, in any way shape or form. We're a country who either refuses to believe or refuses to openly acknowledge it;s racism...and that all but ensures that it will persist and be available for use for the next helpful little bastard to run along and leverage it. As one Don Trump did. Those people are still denying what they know about themselves and what anyone with eyes and ears can tell about them. They'll go to their graves denying it...but, unfortunately, it won't go to it's grave with them.
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#33
RE: I want to know, why do these people hate Obama so much?
1.  I'll let the person who made the Hispanic comment clarify there position themselves . But no I don't see it as the same . One is hated for there color the other is hated for siding with forces that are traditionally opposed to them.

2. They hate him for both his race and because they view him as un-American. Those two things are not mutually in the minds of some .

3. I'm almost certain if a white guy had said those comments .It would not have garnered as much attention.

4. The head dress only affirmed for some his wrongness in the minds of some

5. people hated him before Ayers
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#34
RE: I want to know, why do these people hate Obama so much?
(July 17, 2017 at 12:41 pm)FFaith Wrote: Someone in the thread just said that they hate hispanic Republicans, so I guess they only like hispanics that are the "right" kind of hispanic, and I assume that they hate Ben Carson and others like him as well, so they only like blacks that are the "right" kind of black. Do Republicans hate Obama more because of his dark skin, or is it more because they see him as un-American? Is it because he talked about them clinging to religion, which is true, but was unwise for him to say, or because of that picture of him with the headdress that the Clintons put out to try to smear him as the other, or was it the Bill Ayres thing, or him talking about wanting to fundamentally transform the United States? It was a mix of all of this, so I don't know why people just sum it up to "he's black. The end."

Or you know, I hate conservatives regardless of their fucking race.  They're all a bunch of dumb fucks.  Yeah, Ben Carson is a fuckup too.  But it has shit all to do with the color of his skin.  He wants to fucking teach creationism in schools, and is literally an anti-vaxxer.  And that has fuck all to do with what color his skin is.  It has to do with the content of his character.  I hate Mitch McConnell too.  The guy is a fucktard just like the rest of em'.  Same with Paul Ryan and Rand Paul.  What you won't see is me saying "Ben Carson wasn't born in America!!  Show the long form birth certificate!"

And here's the thing: Yes, they hate him because he's black.  It's why they accuse him of being Kenyan.  It's why, when he presents his birth certificate they don't accept it.  It's why when he presents his LONG FORM birth certificate they don't accept it either.  No matter what he fucking does, he couldn't get away from the dumbass accusations from racist cunts that he wasn't born in America.  Including the Racist-in-Chief Donald Trump.    It's why they say things like "We survived a black President" and "Sadly, because president Obama has done such a poor job as president, you won't see another black president for generations!" Did you see anyone say that "We'll never see another white President for Generations because George W. Bush did such a bad job?"  No you didn't.  And you wouldn't.  

These are the fuckers attacking Obamacare, but scared they'll take away the ACA because they're too fucking stupid to know they're the same goddamn thing.  

If they hated him purely for his policies they'd attack him on that, and leave the stupid fucking birth certificate shit alone.  But they don't.   The first thing they jump on is that damn birth certificate.  They're not attacking him for what he does, they're attacking him for who they perceive him to be.
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#35
RE: I want to know, why do these people hate Obama so much?
(July 16, 2017 at 12:21 pm)Divinity Wrote: Most of those are Republican values, though.  Not just what Liberals think those values are. Just look at their fucking politicians to see that.

Yes, I hate Hispanic Republicans too.  Why the fuck wouldn't I?  Chances are they're the religious fucktards that want to ban gay marriage in the first place.  And if not, they probably want to fuck over the poor.  And even if they don't think they're fucking over the poor, they don't give a fuck about what they're doing or not, in which case i can say they can go fuck off.

Also when's the last time someone said "We survived a White President."  Because a lot of fuckers out there are saying "We survived a black President"    Not to mention all the times those fuckers called for Obama's birth certificate.  You want to say it's about the issues?  Then why the fuck did they attack him on eating fucking Dijon Mustard and asking him for his goddamn birth certificate?  And why the fuck do so many dumbpulibcunts complain about Obamacare, while liking the ACA?

Oh yeah, remember all those fucking times they bitched about Obama golfing, and going on vacation a lot?  Notice how fucking silent they are now that Trump is doing the same goddamn thing.  It's all done with bad faith.

Don't you think it's a problem that you can come up with a whole list of the faults of Republicans, but not a single legitimate complaint that Republicans have about Obama. I can guarantee that if you actually had a civil conversation with one, their complaints wouldn't be 'He's black and I don't like that.'

Also isn't it amazing how Democrats were silent when Obama golfed and went on vacation a lot, and now can't stop talking about it with Trump? That stupid shit goes both ways.
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#36
RE: I want to know, why do these people hate Obama so much?
Trouble with that comparison..is that Obama actually -didn't- golfalot.   Wink

Personally, I can find fault with both parties, but..invariably, the fault I find with the dems is that they do not live up to their promises..not that their promises are fundamentally shitty...as they are with the right.  I'm left wondering...since we're consigned to this two party system in perpetuity, it seems... would I rather have people try to do something good and fail, or try to do something shitty? One party is ineffective, the other is evil. I let the shared baseline of corporatism and grift between them slide, because that's just the american way.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#37
RE: I want to know, why do these people hate Obama so much?
Of course there no going to say because he's black there not writers for the daily stormer racists are sophisticated with dog whistles and coded language . Many may not even get that there idea's are ultimately racist . So no your attacking simplistic straw man. And no Obama rarely golfed Trump golfs all the time.

In the same time as were on Trump prudency it's 19 Trump to 8 Obama
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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#38
RE: I want to know, why do these people hate Obama so much?
Here's the thing, obama golfed less than once a week during his term..and if Trump golfed more than once a week..who cares?  Who cares -if- it looked like he was even remotely interested in doing his job?  It's the latter part that counts...and I'm not even holding out on succeeding at his job - I accept incompetent as a matter of course for american politics. 

Trump is -less- than a failure, he's a fuckin embarrassment.  His shitty non-policies take a back seat to me, at a bare minimum, the president of the US of A should not embarrass the US of A.  If he could somehow manage to be a non-embarrassing ignorant racist shitwad..I'd just say "meh"....but he can't, it's not in him.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#39
RE: I want to know, why do these people hate Obama so much?
(July 20, 2017 at 6:23 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Don't you think it's a problem that you can come up with a whole list of the faults of Republicans, but not a single legitimate complaint that Republicans have about Obama. I can guarantee that if you actually had a civil conversation with one, their complaints wouldn't be 'He's black and I don't like that.'

Also isn't it amazing how Democrats were silent when Obama golfed and went on vacation a lot, and now can't stop talking about it with Trump? That stupid shit goes both ways.

You can't have a civil conversation with a Republican about politics.  You might with some Libertarians, but not a fucking Republican.  

Get them in groups together, where they're the majority and their racism will show.  I'm sure though it's not about being black when they call him a "Nigger".
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#40
RE: I want to know, why do these people hate Obama so much?
(July 14, 2017 at 11:40 am)It_Was_me Wrote: Seems I can never get a straight answer from these Obama hating Republicans. I really just want to know what he has done that has made your life as miserable as some of these people claim to be. I understand he had plenty of weakness's. But he couldn't have been all that bad.

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