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Are Scientists Still Looking for the Higgs Boson?
July 15, 2017 at 3:47 pm
Based on my reading, the higgs boson is one of those things that has to exist. The Standard Model requires that there be such a thing as a higgs boson. The universe can exist without god, but it can't exist without a higgs boson. But the particle hasn't actually been identified.
Does this mean that besides the fact that higgs bosons are unstable and have no spin, I. the author, am free to invent behaviors for my character Higgy the Boson?
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RE: Are Scientists Still Looking for the Higgs Boson?
July 15, 2017 at 3:52 pm
(July 15, 2017 at 3:47 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Based on my reading, the higgs boson is one of those things that has to exist. The Standard Model requires that there be such a thing as a higgs boson. The universe can exist without god, but it can't exist without a higgs boson. But the particle hasn't actually been identified.
Does this mean that besides the fact that higgs bosons are unstable and have no spin, I. the author, am free to invent behaviors for my character Higgy the Boson?
I heard the LHC found a particle within the higgs parameters. However, more research has to be made to confirm if its properties and if they fit the model.
Mabe Alex can expand on that. I know some basic physics, so yeah.
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RE: Are Scientists Still Looking for the Higgs Boson?
July 15, 2017 at 4:19 pm
(July 15, 2017 at 3:52 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I heard the LHC found a particle within the higgs parameters. However, more research has to be made to confirm if its properties and if they fit the model.
Mabe Alex can expand on that. I know some basic physics, so yeah. Higgs parameters? Sounds like what I'm looking for. I want characteristics and behaviors that can be expressed cinematically.
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RE: Are Scientists Still Looking for the Higgs Boson?
July 15, 2017 at 4:51 pm
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(July 15, 2017 at 3:47 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Based on my reading, the higgs boson is one of those things that has to exist. The Standard Model requires that there be such a thing as a higgs boson. The universe can exist without god, but it can't exist without a higgs boson. But the particle hasn't actually been identified.
Does this mean that besides the fact that higgs bosons are unstable and have no spin, I. the author, am free to invent behaviors for my character Higgy the Boson?
Um I am going to do a google search as soon as I post this, but my understanding for a few years now is that it has been confirmed. I was not aware of current conflicting peer reviews, I thought' the Higgs Boson was confirmed years ago. Not sure this isn't that different than describing the center of a black hole. While we cant physically go into the center, we do have a damned good idea of what goes on.
EDIT,
According to this article YES the Higgs Boson has been confirmed.
https://www.livescience.com/27888-newfou...higgs.html
And this.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brie...WqBI2LyvIU
And this.
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/1849...l-predicts
And from CERN itself.
https://home.cern/topics/higgs-boson
So I am not sure what controversy you are pointing to or think is there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson
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RE: Are Scientists Still Looking for the Higgs Boson?
July 15, 2017 at 5:00 pm
(July 15, 2017 at 4:19 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: (July 15, 2017 at 3:52 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I heard the LHC found a particle within the higgs parameters. However, more research has to be made to confirm if its properties and if they fit the model.
Mabe Alex can expand on that. I know some basic physics, so yeah. Higgs parameters? Sounds like what I'm looking for. I want characteristics and behaviors that can be expressed cinematically.
It should be and was found in the 125 GeV range. To the best of my knowlege, the LHC is down to maintenance before more runs to determine more data about the particle. We know little about it yet, except that it was found at that range, predicted by the model.
What do you mean cinematically?
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RE: Are Scientists Still Looking for the Higgs Boson?
July 15, 2017 at 5:11 pm
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(July 15, 2017 at 4:19 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: (July 15, 2017 at 3:52 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I heard the LHC found a particle within the higgs parameters. However, more research has to be made to confirm if its properties and if they fit the model.
Mabe Alex can expand on that. I know some basic physics, so yeah. Higgs parameters? Sounds like what I'm looking for. I want characteristics and behaviors that can be expressed cinematically.
I think you are making too much of this. The particle exists as a new found particle, but just like in evolutionary biology, every time biologists study a little studied species at that point they don't know much about it. Same can be said for the migration of sharks. It's really only been a decade since we've created technology that can track their migration long term. A decade ago we could barely track a shark for days. But now we have battery technology and electronics that can track even a great white for a decade or more. The water bear was discovered in 1773 but it really only has been recently that we have known the extreme properties of that animal or how long it has existed.
The Higgs Boson exists, but since it is a new discovery, we simply need more data long term to understand it's behavior better.
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RE: Are Scientists Still Looking for the Higgs Boson?
July 15, 2017 at 5:13 pm
It's real enough that Stephen Hawkings lost a bet for 100 dollars to Gordon Kane to over it. And real enough to scare him into believing the universe is on a course to instability .
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RE: Are Scientists Still Looking for the Higgs Boson?
July 15, 2017 at 5:32 pm
(July 15, 2017 at 5:13 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: It's real enough that Stephen Hawkings lost a bet for 100 dollars to Gordon Kane to over it. And real enough to scare him into believing the universe is on a course to instability .
I would never bet against Hawking, or Tyson or Krauss or Greene. But then again, I don't even bet on sports. If anyone invites you into a bet, 99% of the time it is a sucker bet and you are not in on it. Vegas would not make money if if the house didn't have the favor.
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RE: Are Scientists Still Looking for the Higgs Boson?
July 15, 2017 at 7:28 pm
(July 15, 2017 at 5:32 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (July 15, 2017 at 5:13 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: It's real enough that Stephen Hawkings lost a bet for 100 dollars to Gordon Kane to over it. And real enough to scare him into believing the universe is on a course to instability .
I would never bet against Hawking, or Tyson or Krauss or Greene. But then again, I don't even bet on sports. If anyone invites you into a bet, 99% of the time it is a sucker bet and you are not in on it. Vegas would not make money if if the house didn't have the favor.
True enough, the bit about Vegas. There is no such thing as a not-for-profit casino.
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RE: Are Scientists Still Looking for the Higgs Boson?
July 15, 2017 at 8:58 pm
(July 15, 2017 at 5:00 pm)LastPoet Wrote: (July 15, 2017 at 4:19 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Higgs parameters? Sounds like what I'm looking for. I want characteristics and behaviors that can be expressed cinematically.
It should be and was found in the 125 GeV range. To the best of my knowlege, the LHC is down to maintenance before more runs to determine more data about the particle. We know little about it yet, except that it was found at that range, predicted by the model.
What do you mean cinematically?
I mean I take a quantum property and turn it into a scene that cold be seen on a movie screen. For instance, in Queen of the Quantum Realm I played out the attraction between matter and antimatter as a deadly love affair.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
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