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Re-"Introduction"?/Temporary Return
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Re-"Introduction"?/Temporary Return
Hello!
It's me! Issa! I'm that 13 year old kid, if any of you guys remember.

I'm back, maybe just for a little while.
I have so many memories of this fourms, from when you all collectivelly helped me come out as atheist to my parents,

I am no longer Athiest but nor am I theist, I genuinly am not sure, I have some Nihlist view points and I would like you guys to help me find out what I am.

I dont care about religon, however, whenever people ask me, "What are your religous views?", saying Nihilist isnt completly accurate, and nor is Athiest and I can't just say, "Er, none?" because I don't believe in god but I have a moral standard but I wouldnt be athiest because they are still capable of "believing" other things like Evolution or the Big Bang Theory.

I don't believe in those, I assume them to be true because of the large amounts of evidence to support those, however things can be added on.

I believe there are no true morals, I am certain there is no god, I believe "morals" are simply what we want them to be, I want good morals to be anything that causes the least amount of suffering, the most good, and the most benefit to people and the human race along with its progression.

However, if Hitler took over the world and Jews and Gypsies were to be treated as less than human, and Hitler made everyone think this, this would be the moral standard. This would be the good.

I do not want this, but me in a parrellel universe believes this to be true

What would I believe in some sort of moral system that doesnt really apply to Nihilism or Atheism

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RE: Re-"Introduction"?/Temporary Return
Hi matey...
Labels aren't important ... If you don't believe in god or aren't sure ...you're are an agnostic atheist like me... no biggie.

"but I wouldnt be athiest because they are still capable of "believing" other things like Evolution or the Big Bang Theory".

Here's another tip, you do not have to know anything about science or even be a critical thinker to be an atheist.
How one arrives at that conclusion is irrelevant.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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#3
RE: Re-"Introduction"?/Temporary Return
OP, atheism is an answer to a single question. "Do you believe in god(s)? It has absolutely nothing to do with anything else.
Thief and assassin for hire. Member in good standing of the Rogues Guild.
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RE: Re-"Introduction"?/Temporary Return
You're not an atheist because you can't believe in the big bang because the evidence supports it? Also, Hitler. Makes total sense.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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RE: Re-"Introduction"?/Temporary Return
(July 16, 2017 at 12:20 am)ScienceAf Wrote: Hello!
It's me! Issa! I'm that 13 year old kid, if any of you guys remember.

I'm back, maybe just for a little while.
I have so many memories of this fourms, from when you all collectivelly helped me come out as atheist to my parents,

I am no longer Athiest but nor am I theist, I genuinly am not sure, I have some Nihlist view points and I would like you guys to help me find out what I am.

I dont care about religon, however, whenever people ask me, "What are your religous views?", saying Nihilist isnt completly accurate, and nor is Athiest and I can't just say, "Er, none?" because I don't believe in god but I have a moral standard but I wouldnt be athiest because they are still capable of "believing" other things like Evolution or the Big Bang Theory.

I don't believe in those, I assume them to be true because of the large amounts of evidence to support those, however things can be added on.

I believe there are no true morals, I am certain there is no god, I believe "morals" are simply what we want them to be, I want good morals to be anything that causes the least amount of suffering, the most good, and the most benefit to people and the human race along with its progression.

However, if Hitler took over the world and Jews and Gypsies were to be treated as less than human, and Hitler made everyone think this, this would be the moral standard. This would be the good.

I do not want this, but me in a parrellel universe believes this to be true

What would I believe in some sort of moral system that doesnt really apply to Nihilism or Atheism

That was confusing o.O;

Anyway, welcome back.
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RE: Re-"Introduction"?/Temporary Return
13/14 is a confusing time. Throw a girl into the mix.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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RE: Re-"Introduction"?/Temporary Return
(July 16, 2017 at 2:46 am)ignoramus Wrote: Hi matey...
Labels aren't important ... If you don't believe in god or aren't sure ...you're are an agnostic atheist like me... no biggie.

"but I wouldnt be athiest because they are still capable of "believing" other things like Evolution or the Big Bang Theory".

Here's another tip, you do not have to know anything about science or even be a critical thinker to be an atheist.
How one arrives at that conclusion is irrelevant.

Im certain there is no god,

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RE: Re-"Introduction"?/Temporary Return
(July 16, 2017 at 3:38 am)Alex K Wrote: You're not an atheist because you can't believe in the big bang because the evidence supports it? Also, Hitler. Makes total sense.

No, it's not a matter of believing I take it as a fact. Well it's a "theory" yes but we techinically cant be certain of the state of something.

Staring at a rock and observing it infront of you. It's a fact there is a rock in front of you.
That's enough evidence to say that.

Looking at the microwave background radiation. It's only possible through the big bang.
If there is a microwave background, for it to happen the big bang must've happneed.
The Big Bang happened.

There is always uncertainty to everything, however somethings are harder to refute than others

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Welcome back.

I see you write you don't believe in god? That kind of means you are an atheist. No matter your other beliefs and lack thereof. You could still be a great many things other than theist/atheist alone though. It doesn't encompas your whole being.

My gf is a an atheist who believes in Some form of afterlife, par example. And cosmic justice. And, I think, absolute, objective moral standards
"If we go down, we go down together!"
- Your mum, last night, suggesting 69.
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(July 17, 2017 at 2:33 am)ScienceAf Wrote: Im certain there is no god

Then you're an atheist and a classical antitheist, as you make the positive claim of non-existence of all gods. You would be a 7 on the Dawkins scale of atheism.

If you don't like the label 'atheist' because you think it comes with a whole load of political, ethical or dogmatic sentiment, you're probably falling for the tricks that religious people play on the unsuspecting public in order to rubbish atheists' reputations. I would say that atheism gives you the latitude to create your own vision of the label, be your own person with your own beliefs, attitudes, ideologies and relationships with reality, devoid of the demands of dogma.

Don't drink the Kool-Aid!

...and welcome back.
Sum ergo sum
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