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RE: Four proofs of the nonexistence of God
July 17, 2017 at 10:22 am
(July 17, 2017 at 9:42 am)Little Rik Wrote: (July 17, 2017 at 8:12 am)mh.brewer Wrote: I asked god over to coffee and cookies, it didn't show. PROOF!
What a coincidence Br.
I also asked Taylor Swift to meet me at the local coffee shop but she didn't show up.
How sad.
How sad, you consider Taylor Swift a god.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: Four proofs of the nonexistence of God
July 17, 2017 at 10:48 am
Also OP misrepresented atheism. It's not the positive claim there is no god. What would have been the most appropriate things to put there, underneath theism, is "Prove it".
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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RE: Four proofs of the nonexistence of God
July 17, 2017 at 10:51 am
(July 17, 2017 at 9:42 am)Little Rik Wrote: (July 17, 2017 at 8:12 am)mh.brewer Wrote: I asked god over to coffee and cookies, it didn't show. PROOF!
What a coincidence Br.
I also asked Taylor Swift to meet me at the local coffee shop but she didn't show up.
How sad.
(July 17, 2017 at 5:51 am)Interaktive Wrote: Physicist Stephen Hawking proved that the Universe created itself
According to biology, a person is a cousin of a chimpanzee.
The existence of earlier gods than the biblical gods who created man and created a flood, says that the biblical god is false. But in the early gods no one believes. Since there is no biblical god, for example, the Sumerian gods are no longer believed, it means that the world is godless.
Laws of logic, 4 basic
Law of contradiction, Law of the excluded third, Law of sufficient grounds
True, either "A" or "not A," the third superfluous, sufficient basis is only for atheism (physics, biology, history of religion, logic)
There are no sufficient grounds to assert that God is the root cause of the world and that the world has a cause. Hence the existence of God is a lie. The law of logic about a sufficient basis is not observed.
How to prove that there is no God?
The world has arisen without cause. God has no reason. Why does the world have no reason as God and other reasons? The universe itself was created when it began to expand. Why? Space is a state of matter characterized by the presence of length and volume. That is, matter has the property of expanding. To shrink has no property. The space between the particles of matter fills the space that separates them. Time passes from the beginning of the creation of particles of matter to their gradual expansion in space. That is, the creation of matter has a beginning in space-time in the past. The universe has no reason because before the beginning of space-time there was no matter, the universe and the possibility of the existence of something and anyone.
They say that God is out of time and that God is eternal. There is a contradiction - was there a time before the creation of the universe. God is contradictory, that means he does not exist. There is no god.
Now about Buddhism and its teachings about the cyclical nature of the universe. The universe is created and destroyed forever. That is, there is no beginning of space-time. But we have already proved that matter and the universe has a beginning in space-time. So Buddhism and the rest of religion is a lie.
1. Theism - God is
2. Atheism - there is no God
3. Agnosticism - I do not know
The law of identity is the law of logic, according to which, in the process of reasoning, every meaningful expression (concept, judgment) must be used in one and the same sense.
The biblical God is the Creator, the god in Buddhism is not the Creator, therefore we can not talk about God and prove his existence, because his concept is contradictory.
Whoever has a high aikju and good mental health will come to the right conclusion that there is no God.
Gee, this must be a collection of statements based on no evidence that I ever seen .
But let us see just few of them.
1) The world has arisen without cause.
Evidence please.
2) The universe itself was created when it began to expand.
Evidence please.
3) The universe has no reason because before the beginning of space-time there was no matter....
What about if the matter come after this cycle?
4) The biblical God is the Creator, the god in Buddhism is not the Creator, therefore we can not talk about God and prove his existence, because his concept is contradictory.
Humans are often contradictory.
No question about it but what this has to do whether God exist or not?
5) Whoever has a high aikju and good mental health will come to the right conclusion that there is no God.
And the evidence is?
I'm no longer interested in proving the obvious. I want someone to agree with me.
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RE: Four proofs of the nonexistence of God
July 17, 2017 at 11:36 am
(July 17, 2017 at 9:42 am)Little Rik Wrote: (July 17, 2017 at 8:12 am)mh.brewer Wrote: I asked god over to coffee and cookies, it didn't show. PROOF!
What a coincidence Br.
I also asked Taylor Swift to meet me at the local coffee shop but she didn't show up.
How sad.
The huge difference is that at least Taylor Swift has shown her face. You can see her in videos, on tv interviews etc.
Oh - also - she doesn't claim to be a deity. She actually exists.
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RE: Four proofs of the nonexistence of God
July 17, 2017 at 12:02 pm
We now know for sure that the universe created itself? That's new to me. What did it create itself from and how does that prove there is no God?
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RE: Four proofs of the nonexistence of God
July 17, 2017 at 12:11 pm
(July 17, 2017 at 11:36 am)Nymphadora Wrote: (July 17, 2017 at 9:42 am)Little Rik Wrote: What a coincidence Br.
I also asked Taylor Swift to meet me at the local coffee shop but she didn't show up.
How sad.
The huge difference is that at least Taylor Swift has shown her face. You can see her in videos, on tv interviews etc.
Oh - also - she doesn't claim to be a deity. She actually exists.
Are you sure that she doesn't believe she's a goddess? Wonder what her ex's would say.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: Four proofs of the nonexistence of God
July 17, 2017 at 12:18 pm
(July 17, 2017 at 12:11 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: (July 17, 2017 at 11:36 am)Nymphadora Wrote: The huge difference is that at least Taylor Swift has shown her face. You can see her in videos, on tv interviews etc.
Oh - also - she doesn't claim to be a deity. She actually exists.
Are you sure that she doesn't believe she's a goddess? Wonder what her ex's would say.
Well... at least she's got the advantage of not being invisible to her fans. So, yeah... she just might be one.
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RE: Four proofs of the nonexistence of God
July 17, 2017 at 12:44 pm
(July 17, 2017 at 12:02 pm)Lek Wrote: We now know for sure that the universe created itself? That's new to me. What did it create itself from and how does that prove there is no God?
Nah, he over-reached there. What we know is that your fucking god had nothing to do with it!
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RE: Four proofs of the nonexistence of God
July 17, 2017 at 1:06 pm
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(July 17, 2017 at 12:02 pm)Lek Wrote: We now know for sure that the universe created itself? That's new to me. What did it create itself from and how does that prove there is no God? We don't know it for sure. There's a hypothesis gaining ground the the universe is eternal, which could be true in several different ways. What we see as an origin point may simply be the limits of a cyclic process, or may arise out of the multiverse. Time breaks down and has no meaning at the extremes of the Big Bang or the heat death of the universe, so has no real endpoints. The math indicates that time as we know it doesn't exist as you approach the BB and it is meaningless at the other end of things where everything is evenly distributed and inactive, so there is no way to measure or utilize time.
Just another example where actual reality is more amazing than bronze age fairy tales.
As for how that would "prove" there's no god, it wouldn't. God isn't necessary to explain reality, after all. In any case, your god is an unfalsifiable proposition, so I can't make any supportable knowledge claim for or against it. I can only say there's no substantiation for it and therefore no valid reason to afford belief to it.
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RE: Four proofs of the nonexistence of God
July 17, 2017 at 1:08 pm
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(July 17, 2017 at 5:51 am)Interaktive Wrote: 1. Theism - God is
2. Atheism - there is no God
3. Agnosticism - I do not know
You left off two:
4. Apatheism - I do not care
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5. Ignosticism - what the heck is a 'god'?
(July 17, 2017 at 12:02 pm)Lek Wrote: We now know for sure that the universe created itself? That's new to me. What did it create itself from and how does that prove there is no God?
Then you would agree that none of us is in any position to make any certain claim regarding the origins of the cosmos?
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