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Four proofs of the nonexistence of God
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#171
RE: Four proofs of the nonexistence of God
April 26, 2018 at 10:33 pm (This post was last modified: April 26, 2018 at 10:52 pm by GrandizerII.)
Just realized this is a necro.
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RE: Four proofs of the nonexistence of God
April 26, 2018 at 10:34 pm (This post was last modified: April 26, 2018 at 10:36 pm by LadyForCamus.)
It’s just that so often we hear from theists, “that’s not scientifically possible. How? Where is the conclusive evidence?” But, when we turn the questions on to god’s mechanisms of action, “no idea; he’s just god, doin’ his god thang”, is a perfectly acceptable response.

Not saying that’s you, CL. But it is a frequent theme around here.
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RE: Four proofs of the nonexistence of God
April 26, 2018 at 10:39 pm (This post was last modified: April 26, 2018 at 10:41 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(April 26, 2018 at 10:15 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(April 26, 2018 at 10:12 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: The belief is that God has always existed.

Why does god exist?
(April 26, 2018 at 11:28 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: How did the universe create itself?

If we couldn’t give you any kind of plausible answer to that question; if we just said, “I dunno”, would you consider the proposition less believable?

I think people here got the impression that I asked that question because I was trying to challenge atheists or be defient. Lol, I wasn't. That question was in direct response to the OP saying "it has been proven that the universe created itself." I had never heard of the universe "creating itself" and wasn't sure what this meant, which is why I asked about it. Apparently all he meant by that was the universe is eternal, which I indeed had heard of before, I just had never heard it put that way before (that it created itself). Anyway, I have no problem with that theory. Whateverist said it best a few posts up.
(April 26, 2018 at 10:15 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(April 26, 2018 at 10:12 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: The belief is that God has always existed.

Why does god exist?

I have no idea
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#174
RE: Four proofs of the nonexistence of God
April 26, 2018 at 10:41 pm
(April 26, 2018 at 10:29 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(April 26, 2018 at 10:23 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Same thing with the universe/cosmos then. Why is this so hard to grasp?

Where/when did I say this was hard to grasp?


How am I supposed to take you seriously when your avatar picture is engaged in that unseemly activity.  Oh, wait a minute .. never mind.
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RE: Four proofs of the nonexistence of God
April 26, 2018 at 10:42 pm (This post was last modified: April 26, 2018 at 10:48 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(April 26, 2018 at 10:34 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Not saying that’s you, CL. But it is a frequent theme around here.

No, I honestly just wanted clarification on what the heck the OP meant by "the universe created itself", lol.
(April 26, 2018 at 10:34 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: It’s just that so often we hear from theists, “that’s not scientifically possible. How? Where is the conclusive evidence?” But, when we turn the questions on to god’s mechanisms of action, “no idea; he’s just god, doin’ his god thang”, is a perfectly acceptable response.

I think the reason why some theists may do that is because some atheists say there is no proof for God and so it is foolish for us to believe if there is no proof. So this is kind of their way of turning it around. I think when that happens, both sides are kind of doing the double standard thing.
(April 26, 2018 at 10:41 pm)Whateverist Wrote:
(April 26, 2018 at 10:29 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Where/when did I say this was hard to grasp?


How am I supposed to take you seriously when your avatar picture is engaged in that unseemly activity.  Oh, wait a minute .. never mind.

Tee hee! Smile
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RE: Four proofs of the nonexistence of God
April 26, 2018 at 10:51 pm
(April 26, 2018 at 10:42 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(April 26, 2018 at 10:34 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Not saying that’s you, CL.   But it is a frequent theme around here.

No, I honestly just wanted clarification on what the heck the OP meant by "the universe created itself", lol.
(April 26, 2018 at 10:34 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: It’s just that so often we hear from theists, “that’s not scientifically possible.  How?  Where is the conclusive evidence?”  But, when we turn the questions on to god’s mechanisms of action, “no idea; he’s just god, doin’ his god thang”, is a perfectly acceptable response.

I think the reason why some theists may do that is because some atheists say there is no proof for God and so it is foolish for us to believe if there is no proof. So this is kind of their way of turning it around. I think when that happens, both sides are kind of doing the double standard thing.

Then I totally misread the intent of your question, and I apologize.  And, thank you for your honest answer to my question of why god exists.  I’ll take that over dishonest apologist crap any day!
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RE: Four proofs of the nonexistence of God
May 6, 2018 at 6:52 am
(April 26, 2018 at 11:49 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(July 17, 2017 at 5:51 am)Interaktive Wrote: Whoever has a high aikju and good mental health will come to the right conclusion that there is no God.

Also, since you're all about proof and scientific evidence, do you have any proof for your claim that atheists have better mental health than theists? 

A quick google search found this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26743877

https://neuro.psychiatryonline.org/doi/p...np.9.3.498
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RE: Four proofs of the nonexistence of God
May 6, 2018 at 10:28 am
(July 17, 2017 at 8:12 am)mh.brewer Wrote: I asked god over to coffee and cookies, it didn't show. PROOF!


Alternative interpretation:  God didn't like the swill you call coffee and isn't wasting calories on the cookies offered?  God might be picky.
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RE: Four proofs of the nonexistence of God
May 6, 2018 at 11:13 am
(May 6, 2018 at 10:28 am)Whateverist Wrote:
(July 17, 2017 at 8:12 am)mh.brewer Wrote: I asked god over to coffee and cookies, it didn't show. PROOF!


Alternative interpretation:  God didn't like the swill you call coffee and isn't wasting calories on the cookies offered?  God might be picky.

JFC, what does this guy want, a miracle?
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RE: Four proofs of the nonexistence of God
May 6, 2018 at 11:45 am
God always struck me as a bourbon for breakfast kinda guy, in the stories.
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