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RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary?
October 24, 2017 at 11:01 am
(October 23, 2017 at 4:08 pm)speedyj1992 Wrote: (October 18, 2017 at 3:43 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: Because you act like it all so simple and obvious. There is no reason for a god to even enter the discussion. It's just a feel-good response to shit you don't understand.
Ok, so it seems like discussion is not something that's particularly intriguing to you - do you mind if I ask you why not? If I made it seem as if this is all obvious, I admit that to be my mistake, and I apologize, because it isn't, and if any believer makes it seem like it is, they're wrong, and I'm sorry that you have to deal with that. But I'd love to hear more about how you got to your perspective on this topic.
What kind of discussion is possible when you claim knowledge that you don't have? There is no objective, verifiable evidence for your or any god. Until you can prove otherwise, you're just asserting and I'm just asking for evidence.
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RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary?
October 24, 2017 at 11:09 am
I keep thinking this thread of mine is dead, but it keeps coming back to life.
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RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary?
October 24, 2017 at 10:14 pm
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RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary?
October 24, 2017 at 10:19 pm
(October 24, 2017 at 9:56 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: MysticKnight Wrote:When I see people have somewhat understood my argument, and address a premise without diverting the subject, I do reply. When it is repeated or people are constantly misunderstanding purposely or just mocking it, there is no point.
A leap of faith without proofs is but self-deception and not a real leap.
With proof, a leap of faith is not required. Sound proofs are, by their nature, convincing.
I define leap of faith as confidence and vision in proofs that are very convincing.
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RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary?
October 25, 2017 at 1:57 am
Oh well, if we're going to be making up our own definitions, I define gods as non-existent. I win.
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RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary?
October 25, 2017 at 3:11 am
(October 24, 2017 at 10:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (October 24, 2017 at 9:56 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: With proof, a leap of faith is not required. Sound proofs are, by their nature, convincing.
I define leap of faith as confidence and vision in proofs that are very convincing.
dood!
To people who spend their entire lives in a very confined geographical region, say a village or a town, it is very convincing that the Earth is flat. They have proof of it, even... just look around them! Everywhere you look, all you see is a flat horizon!
Things that require you to convince yourself in order to understand them are more likely false, than true.
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RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary?
October 26, 2017 at 1:45 am
I posted my original post here over on the religious forum:
https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/...ry.202552/
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RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary?
October 26, 2017 at 4:42 am
God gave you a life so you can make something of it and all you do is waste it talking about how God gave you a life?
MK, seriously ...All of us can shit out alphabet soup and make more sense than you...
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RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary?
October 26, 2017 at 5:26 am
(July 27, 2017 at 4:03 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: By any logical standard if there was any evidence for the existence of god, that would make faith irrelevant.
That faith is needed in the religious community reasonably means that zero evidence is in existence to prove god is real.
It's a good statement but I've trouble appraising its textual qualities and integrity - if you could make it more cohesive with some elegant variation, it should do to appeal to intellectuals alike.
Finally, be imaginative!
I hope that this inspires you and your argumentative endeavours.
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RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary?
October 26, 2017 at 9:14 am
Could you please be more pretentious, Adventurer?
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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