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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
August 26, 2017 at 7:41 pm
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(August 26, 2017 at 3:16 pm)alpha male Wrote: I'm a recovered alcoholic and I give God the credit. Do I have absolute any proof evidence at all that God cured me? No. Am I comfortable with that? Sure.
FTFY.
Quote:How exactly is that a problem for me? Sober, married 26 years, three children, good job...it's working out just fine.
Sounds to me like you're exactly someone who doesn't care about truth.
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
August 26, 2017 at 7:44 pm
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(August 26, 2017 at 3:16 pm)alpha male Wrote: (August 25, 2017 at 8:46 am)ignoramus Wrote: Theists, are you comfortable knowing that the thing you worship will never reveal himself to you?
Yes, quite comfortable.
Quote:He will never help you when you are ill. He will never be your wingman in battle. Never protect you from harm.
I'm a recovered alcoholic and I give God the credit. Do I have absolute proof God cured me? No. Am I comfortable with that? Sure.
Quote:That’s the problem with believing in the unfalsifiable: You could be wrong and you’d never find out.
How exactly is that a problem for me? Sober, married 26 years, three children, good job...it's working out just fine.
You substituted one addiction for another. Granted, its easier on your liver but let's not kid ourselves on what you did.
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
August 26, 2017 at 8:04 pm
(August 26, 2017 at 7:44 pm)Minimalist Wrote: (August 26, 2017 at 3:16 pm)alpha male Wrote: Yes, quite comfortable.
I'm a recovered alcoholic and I give God the credit. Do I have absolute proof God cured me? No. Am I comfortable with that? Sure.
How exactly is that a problem for me? Sober, married 26 years, three children, good job...it's working out just fine.
You substituted one addiction for another. Granted, its easier on your liver but let's not kid ourselves on what you did.
Or kid ourselves about what kind of mind-fuck he's putting his kids through without their informed consent.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
August 26, 2017 at 9:57 pm
god is a psychological construct created by man, or if you prefer, the human mind. Probably subconsciously in the beginning but expanded upon consciously when recognized as a tool to modify behavior within a society.
It's usefulness as a tool is waning.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
August 27, 2017 at 1:11 am
(August 26, 2017 at 9:57 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: god is a psychological construct created by man, or if you prefer, the human mind. Probably subconsciously in the beginning but expanded upon consciously when recognized as a tool to modify behavior within a society.
It's usefulness as a tool is waning.
I wouldn't even give it credit for that. As a manifestation of the misfirings of what may have once been a useful social or other instinct, it deserves no special pedestal for any amount of time at any point in our history.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
August 27, 2017 at 2:56 am
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(August 26, 2017 at 3:52 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (August 26, 2017 at 10:44 am)Little Rik Wrote: One more dogma Kem.
Where is the evidence that all believers think that the Bible is God's book AS YOU STATED?
Aren't you tired of floating from dogma to dogma?
It hardly matters to me which magic book they point to, Rik, lol. Take the issue up with your fellow god-botherers, not me.
How sad Kem.
You are clearly wrong by saying that the believers (and that means all believers not just the Christians) think that the Bible is God's book and now instead of admitting your mistake you try to point the finger in a different direction thinking that I don't notice that.
In this way you fail not once but three times.
Shame Kem shame.
(August 26, 2017 at 9:57 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: god is a psychological construct created by man, or if you prefer, the human mind. Probably subconsciously in the beginning but expanded upon consciously when recognized as a tool to modify behavior within a society.
It's usefulness as a tool is waning.
More and more statements void of any evidence taken as real evidence.
Didn't anybody tell you that a statement void of any evidence is a guessing?
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
August 27, 2017 at 8:58 am
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
August 27, 2017 at 9:19 am
(August 26, 2017 at 5:15 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: (August 26, 2017 at 3:16 pm)alpha male Wrote: Yes, quite comfortable.
I'm not sure how anyone can be comfortable with gullibility. But to each his or her own...
Really? Most people have no problem accepting non-falsifiable positions if they like those positions. A gay or trans person says there were born that way. Plenty of atheists take that at face value, even though it's not falsifiable. Well, actually, it pretty much is falsified by twins studies, but you guys accept it anyway.
Quote:Maybe if you can demonstrate that those things happen at a significantly higher rate for Christians than people of other religions, or no religions, you may have a point.
I'm not trying to prove a point. The question was whether I'm comfortable with it, not whether I could prove it to your satisfaction.
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
August 27, 2017 at 9:21 am
(August 27, 2017 at 8:58 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: God watches over every blade of grass, too. I guess I don't see the problem.
How do you know this?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
August 27, 2017 at 9:25 am
(August 26, 2017 at 3:16 pm)alpha male Wrote: (August 25, 2017 at 8:46 am)ignoramus Wrote: Theists, are you comfortable knowing that the thing you worship will never reveal himself to you?
Yes, quite comfortable.
Quote:He will never help you when you are ill. He will never be your wingman in battle. Never protect you from harm.
I'm a recovered alcoholic and I give God the credit. Do I have absolute proof God cured me? No. Am I comfortable with that? Sure.
Quote:That’s the problem with believing in the unfalsifiable: You could be wrong and you’d never find out.
How exactly is that a problem for me? Sober, married 26 years, three children, good job...it's working out just fine.
Me, Sober, married 30 years, two children, good job...it's working out just fine. no gods involved
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