God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability

[Harry Nevis]

Because your god is actually an extension of yourself. Everyone's is. Whether you realize it or not, you are in fact your own god. You've painted a character on it, but that is indeed yourself that you're worshipping and praying to.

I don't think so. If so then I would just do whatever I wanted and just say God is ok with it.

That seems to be the way of soooo many believers.  It's like they don't change anything, they just found a way to divinely justify what they've been doing and saying all along.

[Jackalope]

I'm beginning to suspect that Drich's alleged AIDS cure was a misdiagnosis, and that some other condition was present.

That's the most reasonable explanation.  Certainly more probable than, he had AIDS and it went away, lol.

I called bullshit back when this claim was first made, and I call bullshit now, particularly on the diagnosis of AIDS while HIV-. The most likely answer here seems that his doctor was flat out wrong.

At a minimum, I'd need to see peer-reviewed research on the matter before I'd consider Drich's claim to be anything more than the babblings of an idiot - but I repeat myself.

[Catholic_Lady]

I don't think so. If so then I would just do whatever I wanted and just say God is ok with it.

That seems to be the way of soooo many believers.  It's like they don't change anything, they just found a way to divinely justify what they've been doing and saying all along.

I'm not sure what you mean.

[Astreja]

I don't think so. If so then I would just do whatever I wanted and just say God is ok with it.

That seems to be the way of soooo many believers.  It's like they don't change anything, they just found a way to divinely justify what they've been doing and saying all along.

Well, it might explain the wide disparity in beliefs among various religious sects, even among different congregations in the same sect.  To a large extent people are drawn to participate in groups that express what they already are, or what they want to become.

[Catholic_Lady]

I don't think so. If so then I would just do whatever I wanted and just say God is ok with it.

It's like you're brushing self-awareness with the very tippy-tips of your fingers, but you're just not reaching it.

That, my dear, is exactly what religious people do. Your god agrees with you about everything. If you don't like gay people, then guess what? Your god doesn't like gay people. If you think gay people are ok, then guess what? Your god thinks gay people are ok. In any case, god's qualities are dictated by the assumptions and baggage attached to the individual worshipper.

You might find this interesting (I had a hard time looking this up, but if I find the specific article, I'll add the link): a study was conducted where people were asked to consider what, say, Brad Pitt thought about a certain issue. One part of the brain would light up. They were then asked about their own thoughts on the same issue. A different part of the brain would light up.

Next, they were asked what god thought about the same issue. Guess which part of the brain would light up when they pondered that. Go on...guess.

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If you said, "The part of the brain associated with what the self wants," then you'd be correct.

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There's been several situations where I was faced with something difficult and taking the "easy" way out would have been completely ok with society. So I could have. And of course, I wanted to. But I didn't because it goes against Natural Law, aka God's nature as I understand it. If God was just whatever I wanted, then I could easily have rationalized.

[Harry Nevis]

That seems to be the way of soooo many believers.  It's like they don't change anything, they just found a way to divinely justify what they've been doing and saying all along.

I'm not sure what you mean.

I'm just echoing your statement.  Most christians I know never give up or change anything when they decide to become believers.  I know many who look at it as a way to justify their bigotry, selfishness and ego, as well as a way of having a whole new group of people to look down on and judge.  I've know a few who had no problem with LGBTQ issues until they "found god".  Then their peers persuaded them that their own rights trump theirs.  And (as amply demonstrated on this forum) any criticism from outside their religion is automatically void, because THEY don't "walk with god" or some other bullshit.

[The Grand Nudger]

There's been several situations where I was faced with something difficult and taking the "easy" way out would have been completely ok with society. So I could have. And of course, I wanted to. But I didn't because it goes against Natural Law, aka God's nature as I understand it. If God was just whatever I wanted, then I could easily have rationalized.

It sounds to me like your desire to conform to "natural law", whatever the hell that's supposed to be.....was greater than your desire to take the easy way out.  God agrees again.  Difficult, but totally wurf.

[brewer]

Why did dirch go silent?

[Crossless2.0]

Why did dirch go silent?

He might be busy dealing with real life. He lives in Florida.

I hope all is well with him.

[Godscreated]

 God has sent this unintelligent creature to to you a very intelligent creature, yet at every turn you've been defeated when it comes to the scriptures and their meanings.

Except that this very intelligent creature doesn't give a flying fox about your magic storybook, and has said so multiple times. Whatever you have defeated regarding me is only in your head. Please leave me out of your fantasies.

Any scriptures you've discussed with me and misinterpreted them I've corrected you about them and yet you still refuse to see.

GC

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 God has sent this unintelligent creature to to you a very intelligent creature, yet at every turn you've been defeated when it comes to the scriptures and their meanings.

GC

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God is perfect, He sends the imperfect to teach those who believe they are the superior ones and yet you refuse to learn.

GC

You refuse to teach. You just assert. Unless you mean teaching by example, and that can't be it, because you drive people away from christianity by your dishonesty.

I've tried to teach, every time I see a scripture misinterpreted by an atheist I correct and give the reason why they were wrong, that is teaching. You nor I have any idea how many people God has influenced through me, don't jump to a false conclusion here I'm giving God all the credit. i have had people come to me and explain what my life actions meant for them and I've had others tell me of people they know that my life actions and verbal witness meant much to them. So you see you're wrong and God has done a good work through me an imperfect creature.

GC 

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How does theism = self worship though? I for one certainly don't think I "worship" myself. I mean, obviously I can be selfish and self serving at times because I'm not perfect, but my faith doesn't teach me to be that way, it teaches me not to be that way.

In GC's case, claiming to be sent by god to heckle atheists.

 I do not heckle people here, I do give certain ones a hard time from time to time though. How can I who use to be an unbeliever heckle anyone, you need to read my signature I certainly didn't write it just to be writing something.

GC

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 God has sent this unintelligent creature to to you a very intelligent creature, yet at every turn you've been defeated when it comes to the scriptures and their meanings.

Textbook example then ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2...ger_effect

That in no way can apply to me because I give the credit to God for my understanding of the scriptures, I on my own couldn't do such. I depend on the One who gave us His word to show me what it means in it's whole.

GC