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God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
(September 14, 2017 at 2:37 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(September 14, 2017 at 12:08 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: Because your god is actually an extension of yourself. Everyone's is. Whether you realize it or not, you are in fact your own god. You've painted a character on it, but that is indeed yourself that you're worshipping and praying to.

I don't think so. If so then I would just do whatever I wanted and just say God is ok with it.


That seems to be the way of soooo many believers.  It's like they don't change anything, they just found a way to divinely justify what they've been doing and saying all along.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
(September 7, 2017 at 8:17 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(September 7, 2017 at 3:15 pm)Astreja Wrote: I'm beginning to suspect that Drich's alleged AIDS cure was a misdiagnosis, and that some other condition was present.

That's the most reasonable explanation.  Certainly more probable than, he had AIDS and it went away, lol.

I called bullshit back when this claim was first made, and I call bullshit now, particularly on the diagnosis of AIDS while HIV-. The most likely answer here seems that his doctor was flat out wrong.

At a minimum, I'd need to see peer-reviewed research on the matter before I'd consider Drich's claim to be anything more than the babblings of an idiot - but I repeat myself.
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
(September 14, 2017 at 3:03 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote:
(September 14, 2017 at 2:37 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't think so. If so then I would just do whatever I wanted and just say God is ok with it.


That seems to be the way of soooo many believers.  It's like they don't change anything, they just found a way to divinely justify what they've been doing and saying all along.

I'm not sure what you mean.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
(September 14, 2017 at 3:03 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote:
(September 14, 2017 at 2:37 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't think so. If so then I would just do whatever I wanted and just say God is ok with it.


That seems to be the way of soooo many believers.  It's like they don't change anything, they just found a way to divinely justify what they've been doing and saying all along.

Well, it might explain the wide disparity in beliefs among various religious sects, even among different congregations in the same sect.  To a large extent people are drawn to participate in groups that express what they already are, or what they want to become.
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
(September 14, 2017 at 3:14 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(September 14, 2017 at 3:03 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: That seems to be the way of soooo many believers.  It's like they don't change anything, they just found a way to divinely justify what they've been doing and saying all along.

I'm not sure what you mean.

I'm just echoing your statement.  Most christians I know never give up or change anything when they decide to become believers.  I know many who look at it as a way to justify their bigotry, selfishness and ego, as well as a way of having a whole new group of people to look down on and judge.  I've know a few who had no problem with LGBTQ issues until they "found god".  Then their peers persuaded them that their own rights trump theirs.  And (as amply demonstrated on this forum) any criticism from outside their religion is automatically void, because THEY don't "walk with god" or some other bullshit.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
(September 14, 2017 at 3:19 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: There's been several situations where I was faced with something difficult and taking the "easy" way out would have been completely ok with society. So I could have. And of course, I wanted to. But I didn't because it goes against Natural Law, aka God's nature as I understand it. If God was just whatever I wanted, then I could easily have rationalized.
It sounds to me like your desire to conform to "natural law", whatever the hell that's supposed to be.....was greater than your desire to take the easy way out.  God agrees again.  Difficult, but totally wurf.
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
Why did dirch go silent?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
(September 14, 2017 at 5:44 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Why did dirch go silent?

He might be busy dealing with real life. He lives in Florida.

I hope all is well with him.
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RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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