A good argument for God's existence (long but worth it)

[Whateverist]

Wait...you do know value is completely relative, right?

You do know that, right?

He's off but I got this.  His answer would have been something like nope and for clear and obvious reasons nobody here but MK understands.

[Mystic]

Wait...you do know value is completely relative, right?

You do know that, right?

He's off but I got this.  His answer would have been something like nope and for clear and obvious reasons nobody here but MK understands.

Yet it seems all theists, through out time, till now, understand this. Even polytheists and ancient societies understood this. Too much technology blinding us to the signs in ourselves maybe?

[drfuzzy]

He's off but I got this.  His answer would have been something like nope and for clear and obvious reasons nobody here but MK understands.

Yet it seems all theists, through out time, till now, understand this. Even polytheists and ancient societies understood this. Too much technology blinding us to the signs in ourselves maybe?

Yes, theists throughout time have all understood their delusions.  Too bad there were so many competing delusions.  If the fantasy had been the same for all theists, that might have served as evidence that a deity was behind the fantasy.  But, of course, there have been thousands of those fantasies, and groups happily killing each other over their imaginary friends.  
     Then we finally witness the growth of science and technology, and gain the ability to measure actual events.  We gained an appreciation for logic, reason, and good solid research. And to the horrified terror of con-artist witch doctor lying scum religitards everywhere, people started asking for something they could NOT supply:  PROOF.

[Whateverist]

Collusion is not indicative of anything real.

[Edwardo Piet]

Collusion is not indicative of anything real.

Unless you're talking poker and you mean "really fucking disgusting." Bastard cheaters.





That's right, the biggest first placer of any WSOP event is a motherfucking colluding cheater. Too late to take his money back now though.

[Mystic]

Collusion is not indicative of anything real.

Bro you just said:

for clear and obvious reasons nobody here but MK understands.

so that should be changed to:

for clear and obvious reasons everyone understands but some Atheists.


A good question would be then, why don't you understand what majority of humans do?

[Redbeard The Pink]

Collusion is not indicative of anything real.

Bro you just said:

for clear and obvious reasons nobody here but MK understands.

so that should be changed to:

for clear and obvious reasons everyone understands but some Atheists.


A good question would be then, why don't you understand what majority of humans do?

The majority of humans used to think the sun revolves around earth. Welcome to the future.

[LadyForCamus]

Collusion is not indicative of anything real.

Bro you just said:

for clear and obvious reasons nobody here but MK understands.

so that should be changed to:

for clear and obvious reasons everyone understands but some Atheists.


A good question would be then, why don't you understand what majority of humans do?

Bold mine.

This is simply a big, fat argument ad populum, MK. Not evidence.

You don't get to just declare an assertion 'clear and obviously true' by fiat. That's not how this works.  'It's true cuz...duh, it's obvious,' is neither an argument nor evidence.

[Mystic]

Bro you just said:


so that should be changed to:

for clear and obvious reasons everyone understands but some Atheists.


A good question would be then, why don't you understand what majority of humans do?

Bold mine.

This is simply a big, fat argument ad populum, MK.  Not evidence.

You don't get to just declare an assertion 'clear and obviously true' by fiat. That's not how this works.  'It's true cuz...duh, it's obvious,' is neither an argument nor evidence.

It's not as simple as that. To state what I state is wrong is one thing, but that no understands that perception but me,  then when reminded majority of humans past and present understand it,  it is a good question to ask why don't some Atheists understand it.

You see if you guys can go past the "your statements are too vague" or get me to define every single word used, we can get into an actual discussion over the truth of the statements. 

But this only MysticKnight understands these spiritual topics has to stop, because most of humans, and great philosophers like Plato, understood this.

I never said it is true because majority believe in it, I am talking about understanding it, which you many of you keep stating you don't understand.

[Cyberman]

What's the problem, then? If it's so easy to understand that most humans can do it, it ought to be simple enough for you to explain it to us poor misguided atheists.