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RE: What is morality?
September 2, 2017 at 12:24 pm
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(September 2, 2017 at 12:16 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (September 2, 2017 at 9:53 am)Brian37 Wrote: What is your degree for if you don't mind us asking?
Computer science.
Good for you, use that degree for good buddy, like education, life saving technology ect ect. You can make a decent living even if it is just debugging computers or fixing them. Tons of mom an pop shops in America that do that.
I tried learning computer code back in the late 80s, I sucked at it. Ironically in recent years I learned how to take apart and put together PC towers, little to late now because towers are becoming a thing of the past.
Back when I was a dumb teen doing stupid things to have fun, I did learn basic DOS code commands, I went into a Radio Shack, a electronics store. I waited for the staff to be looking the other way, I went to the C: prompt on a computer and typed in "Format C:". But that was back in the days when Windows was not to heavy on security. I erased the hard drive. No it didn't cause any damage, but I did cause the employees to have to re install the software. Yea it was a dick move on my part, no I would not do it again.
Yep even us atheists do stupid things we regret.
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RE: What is morality?
September 2, 2017 at 1:10 pm
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(September 2, 2017 at 10:24 am)Little Rik Wrote: (September 2, 2017 at 10:12 am)Whateverist Wrote: Welcome back, MM.
I've got to say I don't think any metaphysical claim can be persuasive which is built up from the definition of the words we use, not that I expect you to refrain from trying.
That is rather bizarre What.
Time and time again most atheists say that we should stick to the words as defined in the vocabulary.
Now instead you say the opposite.
How can anybody make an atheist happy then?
Nothing works for you guys unless it goes along with your belief of the day. 
Nope. Didn't say the opposite at all. Try rereading what I wrote with comprehension. What I said is that you can not build up an adequate justification for believing a metaphysical claim based on the meaning of words. To do that is to give language even more power than it actually has, and we probably give it too much to begin with.
How does that equate to wanting ignore definitions?
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RE: What is morality?
September 2, 2017 at 3:01 pm
(September 2, 2017 at 10:09 am)Little Rik Wrote: (September 1, 2017 at 9:24 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Define it in a thorough manner.
Anything that help you to progress spiritually speaking is morality.
Anything that take you back spiritually speaking is immorality. 
Awesome! So as long as I learn to progress spiritually I can continue to eat as many BBQed babies as I want? This is good news for us atheists.
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RE: What is morality?
September 2, 2017 at 3:36 pm
(September 2, 2017 at 3:01 pm)Hammy Wrote: (September 2, 2017 at 10:09 am)Little Rik Wrote: Anything that help you to progress spiritually speaking is morality.
Anything that take you back spiritually speaking is immorality.
Awesome! So as long as I learn to progress spiritually I can continue to eat as many BBQed babies as I want? This is good news for us atheists.
You sick fuck, KITTENS MAN KITTENS IT'S BARBECUED KITTENS!
I'ts atheist like you that give us a bad name!
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RE: What is morality?
September 2, 2017 at 3:40 pm
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Eating a poor little baby kitty kat? SICKO!
Us humans can take it. Don't pick on the kitties. And it's mean to pick on another species. We should eat our own offspring, like the Komodo dragons do. Because--as you and everyone else on this planet is well aware--Komodo dragons make simply fantastic role models.
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RE: What is morality?
September 2, 2017 at 3:55 pm
(September 2, 2017 at 3:40 pm)Hammy Wrote: Eating a poor little baby kitty kat? SICKO!
Us humans can take it. Don't pick on the kitties. And it's mean to pick on another species. We should eat our own offspring, like the Komodo dragons do. Because--as you and everyone else on this planet is well aware--Komodo dragons make simply fantastic role models.
Oh so are we having a Bernie/Hillary atheist split here? No, there is no compromise. It is BARBECUE KITTENS OR TRUMP!
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RE: What is morality?
September 2, 2017 at 4:21 pm
The eyes of love and justice we must act upon. And it is origin is eternal love that is by which all personalities get their exact defined value from, when the light of eternality was immersed to that of the light of time.
It is the true judgment by which we must submit to. It is the wisdom which leads to everlasting peace. It is the sacred power that is vested to grow.
It is the connection to the Highest reality, a skyward sword, by which we are to ascend and draw closer in ranks.
It is the leader, the reminder, the face of God, the name of God.
Those who know it, know themselves, and those who forget their Lord and the mystic link (may God hasten his appearance) by which they are connected, have forgotten themselves.
No doubt the biggest injustice is avoiding guidance of God and preferring one's desire over it, and all good is following it and preferring over the falsehood and deceptions of the dark enemy.
It is the love of the family of guidance, holding on to them in darkest moments, and appreciating them in the brightest moments as well.
It is the love of Mohammad, Ali, Fatima, Hassan, Hussain and nine leaders from the offspring of Hussain.
It is the belief in the Authority of God who is truly the King of the universe and humanity.
It is the belief in the authority to the extent we negate it from all those who God has not given authority to.
It is believing in the authority of the light and not mixing with it any darkness or illusions.
It is believing in the truth and not mixing it with falsehood and deceptions.
It is sincerity to God to the extent he is valued above all else and hence the only thing and being that is worshipped.
It is realizing and connecting to the rope of God and hand hold of God.
It is believing in the Messengers and Prophets.
It is believing in those who possess the authority of the past chosen families and the final one.
It is no doubt clear and bright to those who know it, while confusing and perplexing to those who mix their false judgment with that of the eyes of God on earth, the witnesses who are the means to truly know ourselves in the best possible way we can know ourselves, even though God knows us best and our exact value is known to him alone.
It is helping God. It is being with the truthful and honest ones.
It is avoiding deceiving oneself, and being true to yourself.
It is accepting proofs when shown to you and being in search of the truth and being thirsty of wisdom.
It is sincere valuing the ultimate value by which all values are derived from, and appreciating all the value he has created.
It is loving the beloved by the light of his face and name he has appointed us to connect to him.
It is boarding that ship, which is by the name of God in its sailing and anchoring...
It is trusting it's founding Captains and the succeeding Twelve Captains.
It is believing in their number and the way of God being precise, wise, clear, and manifest in guidance in the past to the present, with clear guidance in the authority and affair of the religion.
It is believing in the great authority of the chosen families.
Is it submitting to guidance of the guides who guide by his command.
It is being attracted to the beauty of God's names, and testifying to those who are the signs of God and indications and proofs of God.
It is being drawn to the poles of our time, those pulling us towards the beloved Lord of the universe, and calling us from the depths of our souls.
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RE: What is morality?
September 2, 2017 at 4:28 pm
Mom....Mom! MK's doing that THING again!
Where do we keep his "vitamins"?
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RE: What is morality?
September 2, 2017 at 6:35 pm
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(September 2, 2017 at 4:28 pm)Thena323 Wrote: Mom....Mom! MK's doing that THING again!
Where do we keep his "vitamins"?
I am really concerned he is on the path to being so brain washed he might strap on a bomb if told to in the same brain washing language.
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RE: What is morality?
September 2, 2017 at 6:58 pm
(September 2, 2017 at 4:21 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The eyes of love and justice we must act upon. And it is origin is eternal love that is by which all personalities get their exact defined value from, when the light of eternality was immersed to that of the light of time.
It is the true judgment by which we must submit to. It is the wisdom which leads to everlasting peace. It is the sacred power that is vested to grow.
It is the connection to the Highest reality, a skyward sword, by which we are to ascend and draw closer in ranks.
It is the leader, the reminder, the face of God, the name of God.
Those who know it, know themselves, and those who forget their Lord and the mystic link (may God hasten his appearance) by which they are connected, have forgotten themselves.
No doubt the biggest injustice is avoiding guidance of God and preferring one's desire over it, and all good is following it and preferring over the falsehood and deceptions of the dark enemy.
It is the love of the family of guidance, holding on to them in darkest moments, and appreciating them in the brightest moments as well.
It is the love of Mohammad, Ali, Fatima, Hassan, Hussain and nine leaders from the offspring of Hussain.
It is the belief in the Authority of God who is truly the King of the universe and humanity.
It is the belief in the authority to the extent we negate it from all those who God has not given authority to.
It is believing in the authority of the light and not mixing with it any darkness or illusions.
It is believing in the truth and not mixing it with falsehood and deceptions.
It is sincerity to God to the extent he is valued above all else and hence the only thing and being that is worshipped.
It is realizing and connecting to the rope of God and hand hold of God.
It is believing in the Messengers and Prophets.
It is believing in those who possess the authority of the past chosen families and the final one.
It is no doubt clear and bright to those who know it, while confusing and perplexing to those who mix their false judgment with that of the eyes of God on earth, the witnesses who are the means to truly know ourselves in the best possible way we can know ourselves, even though God knows us best and our exact value is known to him alone.
It is helping God. It is being with the truthful and honest ones.
It is avoiding deceiving oneself, and being true to yourself.
It is accepting proofs when shown to you and being in search of the truth and being thirsty of wisdom.
It is sincere valuing the ultimate value by which all values are derived from, and appreciating all the value he has created.
It is loving the beloved by the light of his face and name he has appointed us to connect to him.
It is boarding that ship, which is by the name of God in its sailing and anchoring...
It is trusting it's founding Captains and the succeeding Twelve Captains.
It is believing in their number and the way of God being precise, wise, clear, and manifest in guidance in the past to the present, with clear guidance in the authority and affair of the religion.
It is believing in the great authority of the chosen families.
Is it submitting to guidance of the guides who guide by his command.
It is being attracted to the beauty of God's names, and testifying to those who are the signs of God and indications and proofs of God.
It is being drawn to the poles of our time, those pulling us towards the beloved Lord of the universe, and calling us from the depths of our souls.
"The rope of God"?
What the hell does that even mean?
You could say the following and it would have equal validity.
"The rope of Sinbad"
"The rope of Spiderman"
Look MK, skip the religion for a sec. What you really want is to feel wanted, welcome and included and to stop struggling. "Up" is symbolic word to symbolize rise above adversity. Rope is tool that humans have used to climb over obstructions, but rope is also a tool humans have used to exact revenge on others. I don't see you as a vengeful person. I merely see you as someone who is insecure like I was, whom wants to be free from their own insecurities.
There is nothing to climb and you don't need rope, to go up in life or to hang yourself playing false martyr. What you really need is a understanding of life and yourself and to feel comfortable in your own skin. You don't need to be a hero, and you don't need to chase a utopia. Just live your life and be yourself. A computer programming degree is a huge thing, that can take you places.
Stop trying to convince yourself of a utopia. Just live your life and do the best you can. Others will like you for you if you do that. The ones who don't accept you for you are not worthy of your time.
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