Emotions are intrinsically good and bad

[The Grand Nudger]

I know nothing about these subjects.

Then you can't competently comment on things that involve them, full stop.

[Transcended Dimensions]

I know nothing about these subjects.

Then you can't competently comment on things that involve them, full stop.

If my worldview really does apply only to me, then it would be like I am pure bliss, but no soul.  It can only be bliss (my positive emotions) that allow my life to be filled with good value and joy.  I do not have any soul that would allow an alternative source of perceived good values in my life.  I say in my book that other people live their lives like soulless machines if they struggled with depression because such a life, to me, is not of any real good value.  But that could reflect me, who knows.  Maybe it is I who is the soulless machine and that my way of living and being a composer is no way to live, be a composer, and of no real good value.  I don't know about this one and keep an open mind towards all possibilities.

It's like I am nothing more than a puppet and my positive emotions are like the magical life force from the heavens that animate me.  When a lifeless puppet is imbued with magical life force that brings it to life in certain movies or anime, that puppet comes to life and it is able to see all the wonders, joy, and good values in this life.  When it loses that magical life force, then that puppet is dead on the inside.  It can no longer see any of those good values.  That puppet can think to itself all it wants to that things are still good and beautiful anyway, but that won't allow that puppet to actually see that good value and beauty since these are just empty words without that magical inner life energy.  But there is another type of magical life energy which is negative energy. This would represent my negative emotions. 

When I am filled with that negative life energy, then I am able to see everything in my life as horrible and disgusting.  That would be like the puppet being filled with dark magic that makes it become a dark puppet that is able to see things as horrible and disgusting.  From this, I can gather that, if I want to truly see the good values in this life, then that would require something beyond words since words themselves can only be empty in my life.  That something is currently my positive emotions and I don't know if that something can take on another form.  I metaphorically describe that something as being the inner light in my book.  I don't know if it's even possible that this inner light can take on another form for any given person.  That inner light could only be our positive emotions.  One last thing here.  Everything I said in regards to puppets, angels, demons, magical life energy, etc. is all just a metaphor.  I do not literally mean that.

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[bennyboy]

Am I the only one who's noticed that what anyone says, and the text wall that TD follows up with after quoting it, have literally no connection at all?

It's almost like TD is a new age bot.

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It's part of her delusion confrontation avoidance strategy.

[Transcended Dimensions]

Actually, here is a better title for my book:

"A Life Beyond Words. Transcending The Human Notion Of Value."

[The Grand Nudger]

Page 69!  Success.

[Edwardo Piet]

Good luck with your journey, TD, I think you misunderstand the way philosophy and logic works and I think you are failing to address my points, but good luck with everything. Sorry I couldn't help. I think you are misled.

[Transcended Dimensions]

Good luck with your journey, TD, I think you misunderstand the way philosophy and logic works and I think you are failing to address my points, but good luck with everything. Sorry I couldn't help. I think you are misled.

Understood.  However, I just like to share my worldview and personal values to others anyway.  So, if you just want to read and respond to what I have to say here, go ahead.  But if you don't, then that is fine:

When you analyze value, then you are only having ideas of value going through your mind. But you are still not actually seeing that value. Here is what seeing value actually means. When you feel a positive biochemical emotion, then it is like you are seeing the good value and beauty of things in this world through the eyes of an angel. It is something entirely distinct from rationalizations, intellectualizing, analyzing things, etc. No intellectual faculty can ever replace these profoundly spiritual eyes of an angel that we call a positive emotion.

Likewise, seeing the bad value through a negative emotion is like the eyes of pure darkness or that of a disgusting being or demon. What I am saying here is that our positive emotions allow us to perceive good value on a level that transcends intellect. Intellect is nothing more than just thoughts or ideas of things and situations. I will represent this as 3 beings. The 1st being is  an inferior, disgusting demon or goblin from the lower realms who represents our negative emotions.  The 2nd being would be Spok from Star Trek who represents intellect, and the 3rd being would be a transcended, angelic being from the higher heavens who represents our positive emotions.

Compared to the disgusting, inferior goblin, Spok would be transcended. But Spok would just be living his life by empty words. However, compared to Spok, the angel would be the transcended being and he would be living his life by the real and absolute good values. Therefore, the goal is to become the angel and not to become Spok or, even worse, the disgusting, inferior goblin or demon. I will also represent this as numbers. The inferior goblin (our negative emotions) would be the negative numbers, Spok (intellect) would be the number zero, and the angel (our positive emotions) would be the positive numbers.

Being at the negative stage or the zero stage is no way to live or be an artist. It can only be the positive stage which is the way to live and be an artist. Lastly, I will represent this as the 3 afterlives that are often presented in spiritual and religious beliefs. The 1st would be hell (our negative emotions), the 2nd would be limbo (our intellect), and the 3rd would be heaven (our positive emotions). Heaven is where we all need to be since that is where all the true good value and joy is at. As long as we are the beings of darkness, then we cannot truly see the good values and beauty of things in this universe and as long as we are neither beings of darkness nor beings of light, then we also cannot see these good values. It is only once we become beings of light that we can truly see the beauty and good values in this universe.

[Transcended Dimensions]

Emotions Are What Allow Us To Experience The Value:  There was a skeptical neuroscientist I had a discussion with and I wish to point out one thing he said from my book:

The Emotional Viewpoint allows us to perceive good value, but by itself, it is insufficient to allow us to experience that good value. Let me break it down:

Emotional Viewpoint allows us to perceive good value, but not experience good value. The EVP is the rational analysis of value, simply the logical voice that integrates information about a person, object, idea, or event, then quantifies its value as good, bad, or neutral. But our BEs have their own value judgments. We cannot solely rely on these types of value judgments lest we cause harm and wrongdoing to ourselves and/or others.

Biochemical Emotions allow us to both perceive good value and experience good value. The BEs are the visceral feelings of value, the sensory apparatus by which we interact with a person, object, idea, or even, then quantify its value as good, bad, or neutral.
Does that make sense? This is why either one by itself cannot provide true happiness. Simply thinking, "This has good value," does not allow you to experience its good value. At the same time, experiencing what the BEs decide is good value (without the EVP) can be dangerous to us. We need both "voices."

Our BEs are precious, priceless, and irreplaceable. They are what makes us human.

Now that I have quoted this out to you, positive emotions are what allow us to experience the good values of life and negative emotions are what allow us to experience the bad values of life. But here's the catch. In order to see colors, you need to experience them. If you are not experiencing any colors or if you are not experiencing any physical pain, hunger, or thirst, then you have no real colors or any real physical pain, hunger, or thirst in your life. It is only during those moments where you experience colors, physical pain, hunger, and thirst that you have colors, physical pain, hunger, and thirst in your life. In that same sense, as long as you are an unhappy and miserable person who is not experiencing any of the good value, joy, and beauty of this life through your positive emotions, then this means you cannot have any beautiful, joyful, and good moment in your life. Therefore, this is the very reason why the only way to perceive value in your life is to experience it. Experiencing the value is literally the most profound and powerful thing. It is everything to our human existence.

Since rational value judgments/intellect cannot allow us to experience any value, then this must mean that emotions are truly everything to our lives. Emotions themselves have to be the only real source of value to our lives. You should never leave out the experience of the individual since it is the most profound and powerful thing. To do so would render the individual just focusing on ideas and concepts (i.e. just focusing on his/her rational value judgments) rather than his/her inner experience. This individual would just be focusing on external things rather than his/her inner experience. After all, it's what's on the inside that truly counts and matters. Now, I realize that my view would place no importance whatsoever upon things such as going to a job even if we did not feel up to it, being there for our families even during our unhappy moments, etc. In other words, my worldview places no importance whatsoever upon the rational/intellectual value judgments. Nonetheless, I would still force myself to do something that would save my life or the lives of others even if I could not feel up to it since I am not a stupid person. However, if I had to live most or my entire life like this where I just had to force myself to do things while struggling with a life of depression, then that is no way to live or be an artist.

I realize that positive emotions are very fleeting things and that there are many factors out there that can take them away, but it is all we got as human beings to make our lives something good and beautiful.  One last thing here.  There is one other thing I stated in my book and I will present it here.  That is, I have had nightmares where I had the most horrendous emotional states unlike anything I could ever experience in my waking life.  The crippled nightmare states being the absolute worst of them all.  These types of nightmares have profoundly impacted me.  But I also had nightmares which consisted only of gruesome imagery, but no negative emotions.  These types of nightmares had no impact whatsoever upon me and I have woken up from them as though they were nothing.  In the former types of nightmares, I was truly experiencing the horror and I was experiencing something truly horrible on a whole new level.  That's why I was profoundly impacted by these types of nightmares.  But I could not experience anything horrible with the latter nightmares which is why they did not impact me. 

If we live in a spiritual universe where god, the soul, paranormal, etc. exist, then I would have been experiencing demonic and horrible spiritual energies or life forces in these nightmares.  Positive emotions would be a heavenly, transcended, beautiful, god-like spiritual energy or life force that I would be experiencing in any blissful dream and negative emotions would be a dark, horrible, and demonic spiritual energy that I would be experiencing in my nightmares.  But in a purely naturalistic universe where there is no god, soul, paranormal, or afterlife, then I would just simply be experiencing something beautiful or something horrible.  Going back to those nightmares I've had, that is the reason why rational and intellectual value judgments themselves are nothing to our lives since they have no impact whatsoever upon us as human beings. 

People who claim that negative emotions have no impact upon them are just people who have power and control over their emotions.  They have power over how they react to them.  However, they are still experiencing the horror, joy, good value, and beauty of this life through these emotions anyway and it still doesn't change the fact that it can only be our emotions that give the real perceived value to our lives.  As for people who claim that rational and intellectual value judgments have had a profound impact upon them as human beings, they are just reacting to them, but they are not actually having any real value in their lives since they are not experiencing any of that value through their intellect.  Intellect sends the emotional signal to our brains and it is through our emotions that we have the real value to our lives.  But intellect independent of our emotions is nothing to our lives.