Emotions are intrinsically good and bad

[The Grand Nudger]

There you go again, if you can't be right then no one can!  

Nope, it's still just you being wrong.

[brewer]

I wouldn't be surprised if you were deluded into thinking that you weren't deluded.  See how that works?

Then it really comes down to a situation where we really don't know the truth one way or the other regardless of the things I say or what others say.

Society identifies and makes determinations on  delusional states.  What has the society here at AF been telling you?

Of course the delusional will not self identify as delusional until the delusional state has been corrected.

[SaStrike]

Wait. TD is female? Mind blown. I always thought male. Their deviant art profile says it's a guy named Matt so not sure who to believe.

[Edwardo Piet]

Maybe Matt is their birth name but they identify as female (I'm going by their AF profile saying 'female') so I refer to her as a her.

[Transcended Dimensions]

There you go again, if you can't be right then no one can!  

Nope, it's still just you being wrong.

Then it really comes down to a situation where we really don't know the truth one way or the other regardless of the things I say or what others say.

Society identifies and makes determinations on  delusional states.  What has the society here at AF been telling you?

Of course the delusional will not self identify as delusional until the delusional state has been corrected.

Wait. TD is female? Mind blown. I always thought male. Their deviant art profile says it's a guy named Matt so not sure who to believe.

Maybe Matt is their birth name but they identify as female (I'm going by their AF profile saying 'female') so I refer to her as a her.

Now, here is one response and reply from my book that you might find amusing:

Other Person's Response:  The judgments you project upon us I can turn around back on you because I think your judgments reflect you.  You say that we are like unenlightened machines living worthless and meaningless lives because we live unhappy lives all the while helping others and making the best of things.  It think it is instead you who is the unenlightened machine living the meaningless and worthless life.  You also go on to say that we live our lives by a false definition of good and bad.  I think it is you who lives by a false definition of good and bad.  From there, you say that your values are the higher and transcended values and that it is no way to live or be an artist as long as you live your life by values that do not adhere to yours.  I think it is us who live by the higher and transcended values while your way of living and becoming an artist is no way to live or be an artist.

From there, you say that our ways of living are no way of life and being an artist and I think it is your way of living and becoming an artist which is no way at all.  You also think that humanity has too much of an intelligent, insightful, and complicated way of living and values that prevent them from seeing the most simple solution of all which would be your simplistic, hedonistic values.  I think it is you who has too much of an intelligent, insightful, and complicated way of living and values that prevent you from seeing our values which were the most simple values right in front of your nose all along.  Most people would disagree with the idea of you being intelligent and insightful.  But the fact that you have written this entire book and presented these arguments that no average person would think of just shows that our greatest strengths can also be our greatest weakness and can actually be detrimental to us.

My Reply:  This would just have to be an agree to disagree scenario then.  I don't agree with the idea that I am not the one seeing the simple solution.  How would we prove who is right and who is wrong?  There might be no way and it would all have to come down to us living by our own values that we see to be true.

[brewer]

Maybe Matt is their birth name but they identify as female (I'm going by their AF profile saying 'female') so I refer to her as a her.

It may switch back and forth depending on institutionalization/incarceration.

[bennyboy]

You have transcended reality. . . and common sense. Good job.

[Transcended Dimensions]

There you go again, if you can't be right then no one can!  

Nope, it's still just you being wrong.

Wait. TD is female? Mind blown. I always thought male. Their deviant art profile says it's a guy named Matt so not sure who to believe.

Maybe Matt is their birth name but they identify as female (I'm going by their AF profile saying 'female') so I refer to her as a her.

Maybe Matt is their birth name but they identify as female (I'm going by their AF profile saying 'female') so I refer to her as a her.

It may switch back and forth depending on institutionalization/incarceration.

You have transcended reality. . . and common sense. Good job.

One might try to counter my argument by saying that we can personally define emotions as being our rational value judgments since the word emotion is just a label that we can simply apply to our rational value judgments, but there is a huge difference between definitions and reality. There is a label version of emotions which is just the word emotions and then there is the reality version of emotions which are the actual emotions just as how there is the label version of value judgments versus the reality version of value judgments. That all goes back to what I said earlier in regards to intelligence. You could have real knowledge of truth or you could just slap a label on it and call it intelligence when it never was. I think it is reality that our biochemical emotions are the real emotions and that they are the real value judgments to our lives.

I will give another example here. In that food and reward study, our positive emotions being wanting and liking is a reality and not just a label being put upon them. To conclude this description, if you were to ask as many people as you can in this world if they think that their positive emotions are a form of wanting and liking, then I bet most of them would say "no." This shows that people are having a false idea of their positive emotions. They think that they are not any form of wanting and liking which also means they think that they are not any real good value judgment either. This leads me to conclude that they are also having a false idea about their rational value judgments as well. They think that they are a real form of wanting and liking and they think they are real value judgments when they never were. In short, I think humanity has it all backwards. They would tell me that I have it backwards. But I don't think this is the case.

[The Grand Nudger]

Humanity has it all backwards...and you've got the real deal.  Why is this always the pitch?

[Transcended Dimensions]

Humanity has it all backwards...and you've got the real deal.  Why is this always the pitch?

I thought that food and reward study would have been compelling evidence for my worldview.  If that doesn't convince you, then I don't know what will.