Emotions are intrinsically good and bad

[The Grand Nudger]

Then I see no contradictions with my view. 

So I gather.

I don't see how it is inconsistent then. 

Redundant.

I just don't understand this because I really don't see it. 

You mean, like that example you started in on at page one..you suffer from a significant and insurmountable disability?  Go figure.  

You are free to point out/recap those contradictions right here if you wish.

Already have, thanks. Less copy paste, more reading next time..huh?

[Transcended Dimensions]

Then I see no contradictions with my view. 

So I gather.

I don't see how it is inconsistent then. 

Redundant.

I just don't understand this because I really don't see it. 

You mean, like that example you started in on at page one..you suffer from a significant and insurmountable disability?  Go figure.  

You are free to point out/recap those contradictions right here if you wish.

Already have, thanks.  Less copy paste, more reading next time..huh?

Then I personally think that I have addressed those contradictions.  Especially with those 4 factors I've listed earlier.  I think you see this sort of same thing happening with debates between Christians and atheists.  They list their own arguments to address contradictions with their worldviews.  But, in the end, neither of them get anywhere because one side (the atheists) thinks that the other side has the contradictions while the other side (the Christians) thinks that the atheists have the contradictions.  So, one thinks the other is wrong and it is just an ongoing debate that leads nowhere.  So, from my perspective, it could really all come down to that burned earth quote where we can't know the truth.

[The Grand Nudger]

Then I personally think that I have addressed those contradictions.  Especially with those 4 factors I've listed earlier.  I think you see this sort of same thing happening with debates between Christians and atheists.  They list their own arguments to address contradictions with their worldviews.  But, in the end, neither of them get anywhere because one side (the atheists) thinks that the other side has the contradictions while the other side (the Christians) thinks that the atheists have the contradictions.  So, one thinks the other is wrong and it is just an ongoing debate that leads nowhere.  So, from my perspective, it could really all come down to that burned earth quote where we can't know the truth.

Yeah, four contradictory factors.  Everybody has opinions, TD, that doesn't mean that every opinion is equally valid and no one has facts.  Still peddling a scorched earth.  This is getting comical..it's as if my neighbor set fire to his own house...and watching it burn, is trying to convince me that mines on fire as well.

[Transcended Dimensions]

Then I personally think that I have addressed those contradictions.  Especially with those 4 factors I've listed earlier.  I think you see this sort of same thing happening with debates between Christians and atheists.  They list their own arguments to address contradictions with their worldviews.  But, in the end, neither of them get anywhere because one side (the atheists) thinks that the other side has the contradictions while the other side (the Christians) thinks that the atheists have the contradictions.  So, one thinks the other is wrong and it is just an ongoing debate that leads nowhere.  So, from my perspective, it could really all come down to that burned earth quote where we can't know the truth.

Yeah, four contradictory factors.  Everybody has opinions, TD, that doesn't mean that every opinion is equally valid and no one has facts.  Still peddling a scorched earth.  This is getting comical..it's as if my neighbor set fire to his own house...and watching it burn, is trying to convince me that mines on fire as well.

You are even saying that those 4 factors I've presented are contradictory.  Again, just not seeing this either and I don't understand what you are talking about.

[bennyboy]

If you are enlightened, why are you trolling teh interwebs?  Shouldn't you be out among your adoring flock?  Also: "I am enlightened" said nobody, ever, and was right.

I'm enlightened, but no one can realize this truth.  I am trying to convince others, but it would be no different than trying to convince flat earth believers or believers in Thor.  It just doesn't seem to work.  Actually, it might come down to not really knowing which of our worldviews is true.  They would tell me that this is wrong, too, but even that may be undecided.

Nobody who was enlightened spent a lot of time complaining that nobody understands how enlightened they are.  I'll give a quote, and you tell me if it's legit:

Buddha: Listen to me, bitches!  I'm enlightened, but none of you is smart enough to know how super-enlightened I am.  Pleeeese see I'm a special snowflake so I can teach you how to think about life!

Or, and you might want to seriously consider this possibility, you have clinical level delusions of grandeur due to the onset of schizophrenic psychosis, and you cannot realize that it is your malfunctioning brain and your over-inflated ego that are leading you to think that the scrambled mess that you are spewing here means anything important.

[Transcended Dimensions]

I'm enlightened, but no one can realize this truth.  I am trying to convince others, but it would be no different than trying to convince flat earth believers or believers in Thor.  It just doesn't seem to work.  Actually, it might come down to not really knowing which of our worldviews is true.  They would tell me that this is wrong, too, but even that may be undecided.

Nobody who was enlightened spent a lot of time complaining that nobody understands how enlightened they are.  I'll give a quote, and you tell me if it's legit:

Buddha: Listen to me, bitches!  I'm enlightened, but none of you is smart enough to know how super-enlightened I am.  Pleeeese see I'm a special snowflake so I can teach you how to think about life!

Or, and you might want to seriously consider this possibility, you have clinical level delusions of grandeur due to the onset of schizophrenic psychosis, and you cannot realize that it is your malfunctioning brain and your over-inflated ego that are leading you to think that the scrambled mess that you are spewing here means anything important.

It's not about me though.  It's about the positive emotions themselves since, according to my worldview, they are truly the great things in life to be exalted.  So, when I say that I am enlightened, again, I am not exalting myself since it is not myself who is important here.  Rather, it is us having our positive emotions which is important.  Also, as I said earlier, I do not have schizophrenia or psychosis.  If my worldview is somehow false though, then it would have been due to a lack of insight.  It would be no different than how there are many people in this world who believe that having materialistic things such as money is the only good thing in life.  But, later on, they become enlightened to the real truth.  That could be the same thing going on here with me.  But, based upon my personal experience which was profound and powerful, I am just not sure on this and am skeptical.

[The Grand Nudger]

You've got to be kidding.  It's been all about you since the first page.  What you can and can't feel, and what you do and don't find value in.  Projecting your own insecurities and limitations onto the entire human race -is- your "worldview"

Hell, you started -that response- by saying it was't about you and then ended it by talking about yourself and your personal profound and powerful experiences. I'm willing to bet you had no such thing, on all three counts.

Pull your head out of your own ass and start over, from scratch.

[Transcended Dimensions]

You've got to be kidding.  It's been all about you since the first page.  What you can and can't feel, and what you do and don't find value in.  Projecting your own insecurities and limitations onto the entire human race -is- your "worldview"

Hell, you started -that response- by saying it was't about you and then ended it by talking about yourself and your personal profound and powerful experiences.  I'm willing to bet you had no such thing, on all three counts.

Pull your head out of your own ass and start over, from scratch.

It would be no different than if a Christian had a profound and powerful experience regarding Jesus and claimed that we all need the light of Jesus in our lives.  The person who had that personal experience wouldn't be exalting himself when he claims that he has been enlightened to the truth through his experience.  Rather, he has come to the realization that the light of Jesus is the thing to be exalted.  You might consider me to be a deluded person who has had a profound religious experience of his own.  But, again, I don't know for sure if I really am that deluded religious person speaking lies or someone speaking the truth.  I just have to go by what gives my life value.  However, I keep an open mind towards the possibility that I could be right which is yet another reason why I have written my entire book in the hopes that, one day, if I really am right, that humanity would become enlightened to this truth.

[The Grand Nudger]

It would be no different than if a Christian had a profound and powerful experience regarding Jesus and claimed that we all need the light of Jesus in our lives. 

.......yeah...........

The person who had that personal experience wouldn't be exalting himself when he claims that he has been enlightened to the truth through his experience. 

That's one of the funnier things about faith, it appeals to our servility and our ego in equal proportion, and causes us to confuse one for the other.  

Rather, he has come to the realization that the light of Jesus is the thing to be exalted. 

Delusions of granduer.

You might consider me to be a deluded person who has had a profound religious experience of his own. 

I don't think you had any such experience.  

But, again, I don't know for sure if I really am that deluded religious person speaking lies or someone speaking the truth.  I just have to go by what gives my life value.  However, I keep an open mind towards the possibility that I could be right which is yet another reason why I have written my entire book in the hopes that, one day, if I really am right, that humanity would become enlightened to this truth.

You, you..you you you. Apparently, you didn't actually write your "book". You let people like me do that for you. Who knew that enlightened people were such garbage human beings, eh?

[Transcended Dimensions]

It would be no different than if a Christian had a profound and powerful experience regarding Jesus and claimed that we all need the light of Jesus in our lives. 

.......yeah...........

The person who had that personal experience wouldn't be exalting himself when he claims that he has been enlightened to the truth through his experience. 

That's one of the funnier things about faith, it appeals to our servility and our ego in equal proportion, and causes us to confuse one for the other.  

Rather, he has come to the realization that the light of Jesus is the thing to be exalted. 

Delusions of granduer.

You might consider me to be a deluded person who has had a profound religious experience of his own. 

I don't think you had any such experience.  

But, again, I don't know for sure if I really am that deluded religious person speaking lies or someone speaking the truth.  I just have to go by what gives my life value.  However, I keep an open mind towards the possibility that I could be right which is yet another reason why I have written my entire book in the hopes that, one day, if I really am right, that humanity would become enlightened to this truth.

You, you..you you you.  Apparently, you didn't actually write your book.  You let people like me do that for you.

I personally think that the ego comes at a great advantage.  Since I stated in the beginning that it is our inner universe where the real good value is at, then the ego focuses in on that inner universe.  I think this process could have allowed me to see the truth that it is my inner universe being a happy and joyful one that allows me to perceive everything in the outside world as being beautiful, good, etc.