Irony

[WinterHold]

I didn't read the first post. Is it ironic that assholes like Atlas Shrugged here think that using their book to prove their book isn't circular reasoning? Because it's not, it's just sad and pathetic. Just like ignoring parts of the book that he doesn't like.

I believe in the whole book; actually. All the Quran; not a single page is out of belief for me; the most controversial sentences I believe in are (I'll give the sentence and why I believe in it):

1-100 lashes over adultery. Seeing a "bastard" poor kid, being dumped in the gutter because "mommy" and "daddy" didn't pay much attention saddens me. It gets more dramatic and sad to see a single mother who didn't get a proper job, working as a maid in the morning and a nanny in the afternoon to feed her kid, after "daddy" ejaculated in her womb and took off like a rat. And if people didn't like the sentence; they can always say that they aren't Muslim.

2-Beating the wife. It's very strange to see a husband working for hours to get back home and receive an ass kick from the wife. He doesn't like BDSM and never was into it; but the girl has issues and she beats the shit out of him. Doesn't he has the right to treat an eye for an eye? I believe in this because I'm not a feminist: women are not better than men; and men must be respected for feeding the family and taking care of the wife and kids financially. If the husband pays no money; then he has no right to cry. But a wife being a darling, does not deserve a single scratch. Remember: eye for an eye is also a sentence.

3-Crucifing criminals who corrupt in earth: that's through cutting the hand and the leg, crucifixion, direct execution; or deportation from the land. Remember the Las Vegas shooter, serial killers, ISIS terrorists, dictators like Hitler and Stalin, and then you will see what I see. If humans didn't have monsters within their ranks; such penalties would not exist.

4-Cutting the hand of the thieve:

http://billingsgazette.com/news/local/cr...ffa40.html


Ask her if she prefers freedom with a hand cut; or a full body behind bars for 20 years. Also; remember every hard earned penny you once had, being stolen from you; sending you and your family starving for good.

That's all I can remember for now.
I believe in all the above. In the whole Quran. But there shall be no compulsion in the acceptance of religion: no Muslim has the right to put a sword at your neck ordering you to believe in the above.

Just in an Islamic society, don't rob, don't ejaculate semen in wombs without an official contract, don't kidnap people and torture them, don't marry women then dump them without cash, don't kill. Which is probably what lots of modern humans learned to live by after butchering each other like cattle in lots of wars.

[Astonished]

So, no word on slaughtering infidels like myself? Just making sure you were as big a liar as we all know. But even with those absolutely pathetic and contemptible excuses for your monstrous book of indecency, you make yourself look like ten times the asshole I thought.

[WinterHold]

Because that's not how long-range communication works. Besides which you're trying to rationalise talking to an imaginary friend in physical terms, which is just silly because at some point you're going to have to invoke pretend magic anyway.  Plus there's no god at the other end anyway. You're all chanting to a floor, a ceiling or a wall and pretending it's some deep mystical communion. Yet you're the ones that worship architecture.

As the universe exists; and the scientific evidence pointed in many occasions to the Big Bang theory; the question about "what triggered the bang" still remains and nobody can answer it.

I just picked up Islam as a reciter of what's behind the bang. Like I told Simon: some will believe; some won't.

[Astonished]

You don't have a fucking answer either, and pretending you do makes you look crazy and/or stupid (and behave as such). Want to commit another fallacy besides the argument from ignorance? I feel like we're going to run through the entire list with you.

[WinterHold]

So, no word on slaughtering infidels like myself? Just making sure you were as big a liar as we all know. But even with those absolutely pathetic and contemptible excuses for your monstrous book of indecency, you make yourself look like ten times the asshole I thought.

In combat; Muslims were ordered to aim their strikes at the necks and the hands.
But, whenever the infidels cease the invasion; Muslims should cease too, with the command of God himself:

Sura 47, The Quran:
( 4 )   So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of Allah - never will He waste their deeds.

When the infidels decide to cease, Muslims must do the same:

Sura 8, The Quran:
( 60 )   And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of Allah will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged.
( 61 )   And if they incline to peace, then incline to it [also] and rely upon Allah. Indeed, it is He who is the Hearing, the Knowing.

They never show you these verse; because if then you'll know that ISIS and Al-Qaeda are not even following their own holy book.
Let's see the "infidels" who inclined to peace today:

Canada?
New Zealand?
Australia ?
Switzerland ?
...etc etc ?

So the terrorist crimes that are claimed to be caused by "Islam" are done by idiots who didn't even read their own holy book before killing an "infidel" who inclined to peace.

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You don't have a fucking answer either, and pretending you do makes you look crazy and/or stupid (and behave as such). Want to commit another fallacy besides the argument from ignorance? I feel like we're going to run through the entire list with you.

Chill ! I was writing the comment !!
My back hurts now from bowing at the keyboard; so excuse me but I can't argue!!! I can only "discuss".

And I'M NOT AN ANAL CANAL

[Cyberman]

Because that's not how long-range communication works. Besides which you're trying to rationalise talking to an imaginary friend in physical terms, which is just silly because at some point you're going to have to invoke pretend magic anyway.  Plus there's no god at the other end anyway. You're all chanting to a floor, a ceiling or a wall and pretending it's some deep mystical communion. Yet you're the ones that worship architecture.

As the universe exists; and the scientific evidence pointed in many occasions to the Big Bang theory; the question about "what triggered the bang" still remains and nobody can answer it.

I just picked up Islam as a reciter of what's behind the bang. Like I told Simon: some will believe; some won't.

Whoa, look at the size of that herring! What's any of that got to with talking to a floor and pretending it's a real person?

[Astonished]

So, no word on slaughtering infidels like myself? Just making sure you were as big a liar as we all know. But even with those absolutely pathetic and contemptible excuses for your monstrous book of indecency, you make yourself look like ten times the asshole I thought.

In combat; Muslims were ordered to aim their strikes at the necks and the hands.
But, whenever the infidels cease the invasion; Muslims should cease too, with the command of God himself:

Sura 47, The Quran:
( 4 )   So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of Allah - never will He waste their deeds.

When the infidels decide to cease, Muslims must do the same:

Sura 8, The Quran:
( 60 )   And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of Allah will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged.
( 61 )   And if they incline to peace, then incline to it [also] and rely upon Allah. Indeed, it is He who is the Hearing, the Knowing.

They never show you these verse; because if then you'll know that ISIS and Al-Qaeda are not even following their own holy book.
Let's see the "infidels" who inclined to peace today:

Canada?
New Zealand?
Australia ?
Switzerland ?
...etc etc ?

So the terrorist crimes that are claimed to be caused by "Islam" are done by idiots who didn't even read their own holy book before killing an "infidel" who inclined to peace.

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You don't have a fucking answer either, and pretending you do makes you look crazy and/or stupid (and behave as such). Want to commit another fallacy besides the argument from ignorance? I feel like we're going to run through the entire list with you.

Chill ! I was writing the comment !!
My back hurts now from bowing at the keyboard; so excuse me but I can't argue!!! I can only "discuss".

And I'M NOT AN ANAL CANAL

You're a liar and you're worse than an anal canal, something words are incapable of conveying. Never mind infidels, apostates get a really raw deal. You just can't admit to yourself that you're not a complete piece of shit like your book wants you to be, you're just too big a fucking coward to acknowledge it and get over yourself so you can be the better person that whoever indoctrinated you poisoned practically to the point of death.

[WinterHold]

As the universe exists; and the scientific evidence pointed in many occasions to the Big Bang theory; the question about "what triggered the bang" still remains and nobody can answer it.

I just picked up Islam as a reciter of what's behind the bang. Like I told Simon: some will believe; some won't.

Whoa, look at the size of that herring! What's any of that got to with talking to a floor and pretending it's a real person?

As related as a team of grown up men, following a ball of rubber around a big field and call it entertainment.
Or tall men throwing a rubber ball in a basket and call it "sport" and call it sport.

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You're a liar and you're worse than an anal canal, something words are incapable of conveying. Never mind infidels, apostates get a really raw deal. You just can't admit to yourself that you're not a complete piece of shit like your book wants you to be, you're just too big a fucking coward to acknowledge it and get over yourself so you can be the better person that whoever indoctrinated you poisoned practically to the point of death.

Oah bring it; keep the insults coming!

I'm not here to argue though; research then talk to me.
Go; don't waste time !

Talk is cheap. Go bring a quran and track every verse I said.
But just as a sweet note:

Sura 8, The Quran:
( 60 )   And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of Allah will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged.
( 61 )   And if they incline to peace, then incline to it [also] and rely upon Allah. Indeed, it is He who is the Hearing, the Knowing.

And remember: Islamophobia + rightist cheap propaganda doesn't want you to see this verse

[b]Sura 8, The Quran:
[/b]
( 60 )   And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of Allah will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged.
[b]( 61 )   And if they incline to peace, then incline to it [also] and rely upon Allah. Indeed, it is He who is the Hearing, the Knowing.[/b]

[Astonished]

I can cite as many as you like, but I've done the research (you know, them internets are super useful for dispelling bullshit like yours) and there's some gruesomely creative proscriptions about what to do to me if I should try to steer you folk away from your delusions. Perhaps instead of blindly following this crap like a chimp missing its skull cap, you ought to actually do some research without having a preconceived conclusion so you can be objective. It really helps you not be a fucking lying sack of crap or ignorant dunce.

[The Grand Nudger]

Oh, it's just like that is it?  You text him, he texts you.  Every once in awhile there's a message on your voicemail.  You take a call and chat with him about lunch.  How long do you plan on selling this lie?

I'm comparing wireless communication to a heavenly one. Back in the past; people couldn't even imagine that their grandchildren will talk to other humans across the globe. Saying that it's "possible" meant that the person behind the claim will be a joke; or in some ancient societies: a Kebab on a stake.
But surprisingly, humanity literally saw that this is so possible; and the "shame of the past" became the "stuff you pay lots of money for in universities".
It's not a lie; but it's the simple separation in paths: it is proved -even scientifically- that we have no idea about what is out there beyond space; there is a beyond and we proved it; so either:
1-I believe something is out there; and it made things the way they are
2-I don't believe something is out there
Not a lie; K.
A simple choice. Look for lies in the acts of those who use the above to gain profit. But even aliens are believable now with all the discoveries taking place.

Can you..do you believe that the iphone is the author of the cosmos...or....?

No !

When the phone "rings"; and you "pick it up"; a neanderthal would look at you and think that you are the crazy "man" talking to blocks of plastic !!

You're clearly compelled to provide a list of lies the religious sell........though I don't think that you gave as much effort to the last five as you did the first two.

How?

1-Salvation is guaranteed if you "listen to the institution they represent; because their institution=God's servants on earth".
2-That they have ID cards that logs them into "paradise".
3-They always kill you if you convert to other faiths; or in other cases harass you.
4-They always sell people "imaginary keys" to forgiveness; from the Christian "confession" rooms to the "Islamic Sunni/Shiite martyrdom".
5-All the above is "written as a fact" in many of the books that "these religious people believe". That's the big nasty lie. 

1-
https://islamqa.info/en/96531

2-
https://islamqa.info/en/96531
(Same link)

3-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam

4-
https://sunnah.com/riyadussaliheen/20

5-I brought links from the official books of Sunnies. Believe me; you don't wanna read what I read from Shiites books too in Arabic.

I know too that the Bible is full of similar stuff. Of course; the Quran has nothing related.
Not lies; K. Just research probably.

Get rekt.