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RE: More Race Hysteria from SJW's
October 9, 2017 at 2:12 pm
(October 9, 2017 at 1:40 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (October 9, 2017 at 12:43 pm)Hammy Wrote: His motives are what are questionable.
How do you know what his motive is?
CL please stop thinking of one person or you yourself in a long history with countless samples.
This is not about any one person, but the collective problem that continues to fester because not enough people are standing up to the minority of xenophobes and bigots.
America still has a racism problem so "I am not" still does not cut it.
To me saying "I am not" on the issue of racism, is like being a passenger in a car with a drunk driver and saying, "I wasn't driving". Yea great, you were not driving, but you didn't do anything to take the keys away from the driver.
I have the same issue with religion when Muslims and Christians and Jews pull this shit. "I'm not violent", "I don't promote bigotry with my religion." It does not have to be all, but just enough of a big enough minority to cause problems for everyone else.
Same with economics, when the rich point and place blame on everyone else. Of course not all business owners are selfish dicks, but just like racism, it only takes enough to hold everyone else whom are not, hostage.
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RE: More Race Hysteria from SJW's
October 9, 2017 at 2:38 pm
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(October 9, 2017 at 1:35 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (October 9, 2017 at 9:35 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don't think that I said anything about disliking someones point of view as being racist.
What I mean, is that when someone sees racism in other groups for everything, and that when inane things become racist and movement for the SJW to rise up against, then I think that it both unhealthy, and a form of racism.
This is not to be confused with being against actual racism, but imposing it, where there is not justification on a routine basis.
Except that thoughts don't have a race. It follows that disliking someone for what they think is not inherently racist.
I think the word you're looking for is "oversensitive." Racism has a specific meaning which has nothing to do with what the person being disliked is thinking, but rather, what race or ethnicity he or she belongs to. Seeing racism where it doesn't exist is not racist. Even the act of speaking out against perceived racism is not racist, in the same sense that speaking out against perceived conservatism is not conservative.
Perhaps you are correct, and simply "oversensitive" would be a better word (I would note, that I said a "form of racism" and to clarify I mean that it could be, but may not necessarily be). I do think that one way that racism can show up, is by projecting racism on to others or almost automatically thinking that someone is racist, because of their ethnicity. Basically the same types of issues are seen in a different light. But I'm by no means suggesting that this is always the case.
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RE: More Race Hysteria from SJW's
October 9, 2017 at 2:45 pm
Took all of what, nine pages, to see the bubbles of a white persecution complex begin to surface.
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RE: More Race Hysteria from SJW's
October 9, 2017 at 2:54 pm
(October 9, 2017 at 1:40 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (October 9, 2017 at 12:43 pm)Hammy Wrote: His motives are what are questionable.
How do you know what his motive is?
He kind of makes it incredibly obvious that he's only pushing his own right wing agenda.
Remember when someone pointed out a mistake and he took offence to it? He's not here to discuss or to learn he's here to push his right wing agenda.
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RE: More Race Hysteria from SJW's
October 9, 2017 at 2:56 pm
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(October 9, 2017 at 2:54 pm)Hammy Wrote: (October 9, 2017 at 1:40 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: How do you know what his motive is?
He kind of makes it incredibly obvious that he's only pushing his own right wing agenda.
I'll agree that he is pushing his right wing views. People here push their views all the time, so he's definitely not alone in that.
But having right wing views does not always equal having racist views. What makes you claim He is racist? Tiz hasn't answered either.
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RE: More Race Hysteria from SJW's
October 9, 2017 at 3:00 pm
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(October 9, 2017 at 2:56 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (October 9, 2017 at 2:54 pm)Hammy Wrote: He kind of makes it incredibly obvious that he's only pushing his own right wing agenda.
Remember when someone pointed out a mistake and he took offence to it? He's not here to discuss or to learn he's here to push his right wing agenda.
I'll agree that he is pushing his right wing views. People here push their views all the time, so he's definitely not alone in that.
But having right wing views does not always equal having racist views. What makes you claim He is racist? Tiz hasn't answered either.
I'm not claiming he's necessarily racist but he sure seems to have his priorities completely fucking backwards.
Also right-wingers are generally racist. If you believe in equality and liberty you will be left-wing or at least political center and if you don't believe in those things you'll be bigoted. Right-wing political views are the perfect views for the racist and bigot to identify with.
I certainly don't push my political views in a disingenuous way like this. And I don't really know any liberal or left-wing people (or centrist people) who do either. I mean, the extreme SJWs are the only ones really. This disingenuous crap where you are only interested in confirming the shit you already believe in and you're not remotely interested in actually debating. Neo isn't here to participate he's here to preach his agenda and ignore the responses if there isn't anything he can think of saying in response to further push his agenda. And that is most definitely what I mean by him pushing his agenda. He's disingenuous and like a missionary.
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RE: More Race Hysteria from SJW's
October 9, 2017 at 3:01 pm
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Someone really needs to go figure that out for themselves. Maybe it's being consistently against a minority interest, or maybe it's his statue enthusiasm, or maybe it's constantly being triggered by sjws, or maybe that little bit where he's pretty sure that stats bare out the fact that blacks are a violent race.
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RE: More Race Hysteria from SJW's
October 9, 2017 at 3:02 pm
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Alright. When I initially asked Tiz what Neo has said that is racist, your response made it seem like you also thought he was racist. Sorry for the misunderstaning.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: More Race Hysteria from SJW's
October 9, 2017 at 3:04 pm
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I do think he is racist but I mostly intuit that because it's pretty obvious. It's not a belief that's presentable via logical argument it's a belief that I have based on what Neo is like. He's kind of an incredibly shitty person and him using threads like this to justify his own racism is the most plausible explanation.
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RE: More Race Hysteria from SJW's
October 9, 2017 at 3:45 pm
(October 9, 2017 at 3:04 pm)Hammy Wrote: I do think he is racist but I mostly intuit that because it's pretty obvious. It's not a belief that's presentable via logical argument it's a belief that I have based on what Neo is like. He's kind of an incredibly shitty person and him using threads like this to justify his own racism is the most plausible explanation.
Ok, I'm confused lol. Are you or are you not claiming that Chad is racist? And if so, can you point to something he has said that prompts you to make that claim?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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