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Thoughts on Hell?
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Yes, people often behave badly. I wouldn't go so far as to call that hell, though, because whatever pain others cause eventually comes to an end.
The religious hell concept? Pure myth, just a scare tactic.  RE: Thoughts on Hell?
October 11, 2017 at 11:28 am
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2017 at 12:27 pm by Brian37.)
(October 11, 2017 at 11:21 am)Astreja Wrote: Yes, people often behave badly. I wouldn't go so far as to call that hell, though, because whatever pain others cause eventually comes to an end. Yep, but unfortunately the theist stupidly thinks because the atheist/skeptic rejects such myth/superstition, we advocate lawlessness. Theist morality of behaving is out of fear, not morality. It is Orwellian. It is sad that someone would behave out of fear. I think better morality is doing the right thing, even when nobody is watching, even when you don't get rewarded. The concept of Hell, is born out of antiquity, in an age when the mortality rate was far higher, and most humans lived under local and rival tribal kingdoms. Back then humans were expected to tow the local tribal line with blind loyalty. Atheists don't value lawlessness, we simply don't attach human behavior, good or bad to Yoda vs Darth Vader. 
That's what you call a false dichotomy. Because we don't believe in hell, we must believe in complete anarchy. Granted, heaven and hell isn't about justice. The whole point of christianity is you're avoiding punishment by scapegoating someone else. Most responsible people would be happy to take a just punishment, but they've made hell so bad that no one would want to spend time there even if they believe it's a just way to cleanse themselves of sin. The whole thing is a sham. If we deserve hell, and hell is just, then everyone should go there, temporarily.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason... http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/ Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50 A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh. http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html  RE: Thoughts on Hell?
October 11, 2017 at 12:18 pm
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2017 at 12:22 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(October 11, 2017 at 9:40 am)mh.brewer Wrote: POE, needs better game. Yep. I'm not buying it. Three threads already, and she hasn't participated in any of them. Not even one reply.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken. 
I don't think this POE responds to posts, just writes OP's and moves on. There should be a rule about that.
(October 11, 2017 at 12:22 pm)Whateverist Wrote: I don't think this POE responds to posts, just writes OP's and moves on. There should be a rule about that. I was just thinking the same thing.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.  (October 11, 2017 at 9:54 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 'Father Neil - the Holy Mother Church requires that all good Catholics believe in Hell. But only a fool would actually believe that there is anyone there.' - Father Charles Clement Duddleswell Addendum: bonus points and an onion milkshake (patent pending) to the first member to source this quote. Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
I once came across this point of view and it was amazing!
- if you understand someone's reasons for doing anything in their life, then you will feel compelled to forgive them... at least, you will not blame them for whatever happened. You will understand the chain of events that led to that particular outcome. - if god is truly omniscient, then god understands everyone's reasons for doing anything. - If he understands, then he cannot blame people for their actions. - No blame means no punishment. - No punishment means no need to have ever even created a hell. --- Hell is a human construct. QED The really interesting question becomes: if hell is a human construct, why would god allow us to perpetuate it? Does god not care about the harm it does to people's minds? Does he care but is unable to do anything, because "free will"? Considering a deterministic brain, is free will even a thing?! If Hell is a human construct, is Heaven one too?... and what about god itself? 
Sister Agatha;
![[Image: final_fullres_illo_1.jpg]](https://whatafoxgraphics.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/final_fullres_illo_1.jpg) Checkmate. RAmen.
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming" -The Prophet Boiardi-
Conservative trigger warning.
![[Image: s-l640.jpg]](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/DjAAAOSwpIhe1HCM/s-l640.jpg) (October 11, 2017 at 12:34 pm)pocaracas Wrote: If Hell is a human construct, is Heaven one too?... and what about god itself? Going to have to say yes. I've come across many humans in my trips around the sun but nary a god. So if any thing has been constructed of the imaginative sort, it must be the imagining of a human. |
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