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Scenario: how altruistic are you?
#21
RE: Scenario: how altruistic are you?
(October 14, 2017 at 8:36 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: This is guilt felt by association to the person/act. I'm not sure that the possibility of someone feeling that guilt can ever be removed.

I can definitely attest to that. So you see, I occupy both sides of the coin.
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#22
RE: Scenario: how altruistic are you?
(October 14, 2017 at 4:47 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: You see a vehicle speeding toward an injured child on the road.  The only way to save the child is to place your vehicle between the child and the speeding vehicle.  Do you do it?

It depends.

If the speeding vehicle is a flimsy little motor tricycle, and I am in a robust and heavy vehicle, I probably would place my vehicle in the path of the speeding motor tricycle.

If the speeding vehicle is a 18 wheel semi, and I am in a econobox, I probably won’t.

I guess I am not ultruistic enough to accept certain death just to save one other life.

But I f by letting myself get run over and very likely die, I think I have a good chance of deflecting the semi from a parked jumbo jet full of people, and I know for a fact majority of them would vote against trump, then I probably will try to do so even if I remembered doing so would likely result in my own death.

If one the other hand, I know most of them will vote for trump, I will even more gladly sacrifice my life by jumping onto the semi and making sure it does not miss.
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#23
RE: Scenario: how altruistic are you?
(October 14, 2017 at 4:47 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: You see a vehicle speeding toward an injured child on the road.  The only way to save the child is to place your vehicle between the child and the speeding vehicle.  Do you do it?

It's impossible to say, really. Here in this thread we have the luxury of mulling over our potential decision. But in a real life scenario like the one that you give, we would only have seconds or less to "decide". I've been blind-sided by circumstances and had to decide quickly what to do - and then thought later with the benefit of hindsight about how I might have handled things differently.

And what of other real-life variables? Who else is in my vehicle? My kid? Would I kill myself and my kid for someone else's kid? Is killing my kid to save someone else's really altruistic?

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#24
RE: Scenario: how altruistic are you?
Assuming I would have time to jump out of the car so as to not get killed myself -- Yes, I'd give it a try. I can always get another car.
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#25
RE: Scenario: how altruistic are you?
I'd put my pedal to the medal and go into the speeding car. Like bumper cars. But before I hit I'd jump out, and Jesus would catch me and float me safely to the fluffy grass, and car ram rod would save the kid.
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#26
RE: Scenario: how altruistic are you?
(October 14, 2017 at 4:47 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: You see a vehicle speeding toward an injured child on the road. The only way to save the child is to place your vehicle between the child and the speeding vehicle. Do you do it?

Depends on my vehicle. In a car I might.

On my bike, probably not.

In a tank, definitely.

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#27
RE: Scenario: how altruistic are you?
Let's not be hasty..I don;t even know the kid.  He might be an asshole.
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#28
RE: Scenario: how altruistic are you?
(October 15, 2017 at 9:13 am)Khemikal Wrote: Let's not be hasty..I don;t even know the kid.  He might be an asshole.

Now there's something few people will tell you honestly. All kids are assholes.
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#29
RE: Scenario: how altruistic are you?
There wouldn't be enough time to think it through and make a decision. So my instincts would take over.

Question is, which instinct would be stronger? My survival instinct to stay put, or my maternal instinct to save a child in danger?

Impossible to say...
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#30
RE: Scenario: how altruistic are you?
Roll my car in front and bail if i have enough time
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