Does god got a place for philosophers, or is it just a fairytale for stupids?

[brewer]

Do you beleive in OOB ( Out Of Body ) experience?

People may experience them mentally but they do not exist in reality outside of the mind anymore than dreams do. Same with NDE's.

[MixedUpSatan]

Do you beleive in OOB ( Out Of Body ) experience?

People may experience them mentally but they do not exist in reality outside of the mind anymore than dreams do. Same with NDE's.

No link between mental and physical? If you perceive this like if we are machines with simulated reality inside our minds, reality becomes what's happening, and since I got with you this far I'd like to introduce you to this kind of theory and concept about what reality is. Reality is what we make of it, in other words reality is what we create, because there is harmony in between  stuff we think and stuff that happen, unless we're giving our " logic " the mission to reject anything that goes against what it's wisdom says. And then I think that's when it's wisdom is torn apart.

[brewer]

No link between mental and physical? If you perceive this like if we are machines with simulated reality inside our minds, reality becomes what's happening, and since I got with you this far I'd like to introduce you to this kind of theory and concept about what reality is. Reality is what we make of it, in other words reality is what we create, because there is harmony in between  stuff we think and stuff that happen, unless we're giving our " logic " the mission to reject anything that goes against what it's wisdom says. And then I think that's when it's wisdom is torn apart.

Reality has this wonderful thing call third person perspective, even between human and non human life forms. Reality is not a simulation.

[MixedUpSatan]

No link between mental and physical? If you perceive this like if we are machines with simulated reality inside our minds, reality becomes what's happening, and since I got with you this far I'd like to introduce you to this kind of theory and concept about what reality is. Reality is what we make of it, in other words reality is what we create, because there is harmony in between  stuff we think and stuff that happen, unless we're giving our " logic " the mission to reject anything that goes against what it's wisdom says. And then I think that's when it's wisdom is torn apart.

Reality has this wonderful thing call third person perspective, even between human and non human life forms. Reality is not a simulation.

But how do you identify reality then? And what's real? What do you identify real as?

[WinterHold]

Well, I don't know. I live in a muslim country and my friends, I consider them as retards in high school cuz they relate everything to our religion and ask me shit like... " did god mention physics and mathematics in quran " and then they get their stupid answers from their " imams " and shit... And they start telling them that " islam is science islam is good " and then I start slamming my head straight directing all my anger towards the wall. Crying inside cause no one seems to understand me nor work his mind a little to get that paradox they live in and the stupidities like... Them going to heaven and sipping champagne and fucking the girl they want, after already doing that even tho they know its not allowed in islam but it's always that mentality of " yeah fuck it we'll pray later and god will forgive us because we are the best people ever, he chosen us, what a nice motherfucker " and it goes on and on, the same shit every day and same questions by me.  What I just said sounds useless but then I wonder how will god deal with philosophers ( I don't beleive in islam's god but yeah let's just imagine ) if they ever pulled out of his hair some truths he could have never guessed, something that will blow his mind, just like the stuff we see from atheists and big thinkers every day. Will he just give him the rank of " god " xD or like... crucify him, or brainwash him with his magical powers, or maybe give up on the duty he kept serving for centuries watching people and cursing them and sending them to hell and heaven like a no lifer in the sky, what a tiring job he got, or like finally realize that there is no absolute truth and that it ain't by saying you are strong you actually are, but it is by proving and doing.

Which country is that?

As far as I know; Muslims never ask each other these questions. A Muslim might ask about a verse with a scientific fact in the Quran, might ask about the location of a Hadith stating a fact just discovered by science, or even both; but they never ask if God mentioned physics and math. It's a de-facto to most Muslims.

Second of all; you can indeed "fuck" if you marry the girl. You can even marry 4 according to some interpretations of the Quran.
How do you think we came to life? my dad fucked my mom. Literally. That's totally accepted in Islam; and even blessed; but only if you have a contract between you and the girl; i.e marriage.

Third of all; you use the word "fuck" a lot. It seems cheap.

[MixedUpSatan]

Well, I don't know. I live in a muslim country and my friends, I consider them as retards in high school cuz they relate everything to our religion and ask me shit like... " did god mention physics and mathematics in quran " and then they get their stupid answers from their " imams " and shit... And they start telling them that " islam is science islam is good " and then I start slamming my head straight directing all my anger towards the wall. Crying inside cause no one seems to understand me nor work his mind a little to get that paradox they live in and the stupidities like... Them going to heaven and sipping champagne and fucking the girl they want, after already doing that even tho they know its not allowed in islam but it's always that mentality of " yeah fuck it we'll pray later and god will forgive us because we are the best people ever, he chosen us, what a nice motherfucker " and it goes on and on, the same shit every day and same questions by me.  What I just said sounds useless but then I wonder how will god deal with philosophers ( I don't beleive in islam's god but yeah let's just imagine ) if they ever pulled out of his hair some truths he could have never guessed, something that will blow his mind, just like the stuff we see from atheists and big thinkers every day. Will he just give him the rank of " god " xD or like... crucify him, or brainwash him with his magical powers, or maybe give up on the duty he kept serving for centuries watching people and cursing them and sending them to hell and heaven like a no lifer in the sky, what a tiring job he got, or like finally realize that there is no absolute truth and that it ain't by saying you are strong you actually are, but it is by proving and doing.

Which country is that?

As far as I know; Muslims never ask each other these questions. A Muslim might ask about a verse with a scientific fact in the Quran, might ask about the location of a Hadith stating a fact just discovered by science, or even both; but they never ask if God mentioned physics and math. It's a de-facto to most Muslims.

Second of all; you can indeed "fuck" if you marry the girl. You can even marry 4 according to some interpretations of the Quran.
How do you think we came to life? my dad fucked my mom. Literally. That's totally accepted in Islam; and even blessed; but only if you have a contract between you and the girl; i.e marriage.

Third of all; you use the word "fuck" a lot. It seems cheap.

It's Tunisia. Maybe I wasn't that much clear when I said " fucking the girl they want " cuz I didn't mean they'd do that in this life we're living but in this heaven they beleive in. And when I said " they know it's not allowed in islam... " I meant that they know it's not allowed to do that outside of marriage. So I totally get how we came to life scientifically. And oh, about muslims asking each other these type of questions, I gave that as an example, trying to prove from my prespective that we " muslims " tend to go alot absurd automatically when it comes to mixing our religion with our daily routine and the subjects that we treat and the stuff we see etc... and that's because of the religion we beleive in.
And sorry for using the word "fuck" alot if it offends you or anybody else.

[WinterHold]

It's Tunisia. Maybe I wasn't that much clear when I said " fucking the girl they want " cuz I didn't mean they'd do that in this life we're living but in this heaven they beleive in. And when I said " they know it's not allowed in islam... " I meant that they know it's not allowed to do that outside of marriage. So I totally get how we came to life scientifically. And oh, about muslims asking each other these type of questions, I gave that as an example, trying to prove from my prespective that we " muslims " tend to go alot absurd automatically when it comes to mixing our religion with our daily routine and the subjects that we treat and the stuff we see etc... and that's because of the religion we beleive in.
And sorry for using the word  "fuck" alot if it offends you or anybody else.

First of all; congratulations on succeeding in the revolt of 2014: your people began a spring and I don't know if you personally contributed to it or not; but congratulations :
Never had a chat with a Tunisian; so I needed to say that first of all. Tunisia inspired every free Arab

I hear you got some serious problems regarding the numbers of "extremists"; some of the strongest wings in "Al-Qaeda" come from Tunisia, Morroco and Algeria. I can literally say that you keep it to yourself as peoples; and extremism finds a haven in places like that. I hope you defeat that, and win in the revolutionary battle against dictators and Sunni terrorism alike. But if you saw Egypt or Syria; you'll realize you're so lucky.

I'm sorry too if I went too hard..but I'm paranoid. Please excuse me, and welcome !

[brewer]

Reality has this wonderful thing call third person perspective, even between human and non human life forms. Reality is not a simulation.

But how do you identify reality then? And what's real? What do you identify real as?

With my senses. We have at least 10, maybe more.

[ignoramus]

MixedUpSatan.

What's real?... Your instincts tell you what is real ..which is why you're still alive now.
What a weird question.

[MixedUpSatan]

It's Tunisia. Maybe I wasn't that much clear when I said " fucking the girl they want " cuz I didn't mean they'd do that in this life we're living but in this heaven they beleive in. And when I said " they know it's not allowed in islam... " I meant that they know it's not allowed to do that outside of marriage. So I totally get how we came to life scientifically. And oh, about muslims asking each other these type of questions, I gave that as an example, trying to prove from my prespective that we " muslims " tend to go alot absurd automatically when it comes to mixing our religion with our daily routine and the subjects that we treat and the stuff we see etc... and that's because of the religion we beleive in.
And sorry for using the word  "fuck" alot if it offends you or anybody else.

First of all; congratulations on succeeding in the revolt of 2014: your people began a spring and I don't know if you personally contributed to it or not; but congratulations :
Never had a chat with a Tunisian; so I needed to say that first of all. Tunisia inspired every free Arab

I hear you got some serious problems regarding the numbers of "extremists"; some of the strongest wings in "Al-Qaeda" come from Tunisia, Morroco and Algeria. I can literally say that you keep it to yourself as peoples; and extremism finds a haven in places like that. I hope you defeat that, and win in the revolutionary battle against dictators and Sunni terrorism alike. But if you saw Egypt or Syria; you'll realize you're so lucky.

I'm sorry too if I went too hard..but I'm paranoid. Please excuse me, and welcome !

Thank you for understanding, and sorry for answering late, don't have time. About the revolution, well it's every " arab's " opinion that the revolution was beneficial, but i think it was only detrimental, and then these extremist beliefs started growing more and more till I personally started getting annoyed because of that and I can notice it in people's acts in my country. And I get your point about egypt and syria. But yeah I'm just here to find a solution for myself as I'm facing these ignorant people who take everything for granted ( like, consider that they know the absolute truth and that everyone should be like them ), it's a common matter but yeah, the case is a little bit different here, I'm sure. We're like scizophrenics.