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Random evolution
#11
RE: Random evolution
(October 31, 2017 at 4:09 pm)Cyberman Wrote: It's no more creepy than gravity. A mechanical and mindless force that we can't see permeating the Universe, keeping whole stars, planets and galaxies from flying apart, and only waiting for one slip of the foot on a high ledge to hurl us to a sticky, messy death?

Gravity doesn't fuck mind with painful fears about hell, humans do with their wild imagination.
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#12
RE: Random evolution
It does fuck my mind with painful fears, I'm acrophobic. Doesn't get me down though.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#13
RE: Random evolution
(October 31, 2017 at 3:21 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: How random and mindless evolution processes create such complex human minds and bodies?

One step at a time. Billions of years to get here, not 6,000. Success feeds on success, so useful mutations thrived while less useful or down right harmful ones fell by the way side.
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#14
RE: Random evolution
(October 31, 2017 at 3:21 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: How random and mindless evolution processes create such complex human minds and bodies?

Why for not your English improve over four years, are you communicating via Google translate?
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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#15
RE: Random evolution
Quote:Why organisms are hardwired for survival at all?

Because DNA seems to do nothing so well as to create mechanisms for creating more DNA.  This may be the purpose of the Universe.

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‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#16
RE: Random evolution
(October 31, 2017 at 3:29 pm)purplepurpose Wrote:
(October 31, 2017 at 3:25 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: The random parts of evolution (inheritable variability) are filtered through natural selection (non-random) which filters out organisms poorly adapted to their reproductive environment.

Organisms that don't have a 'drive to survive' are poorly adapted for most reproductive environments that involve being able to move.

Why organisms are hardwired for survival at all?
Many weren't. We just see them around any more. They fucked off and died.
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#17
RE: Random evolution
(October 31, 2017 at 3:21 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: How random and mindless evolution processes create such complex human minds and bodies?

Ever hear of a little thing called natural selection. Individual mutations may be random (hence why we get a laryngeal nerve which loops around on itself before going back to the heart, or breath through the same tube we eat through), but over time the selection pressures of the environment around (climate, geography, predators, fellow compeditors for the same food &c) cause the mutations which are beneficial on the whole to take hold within a population (mainly because beneficial mutations tend to make an individual live longer, hence more opportunities to sire young'uns, hence pass on the beneficial mutations) over the course of generations.

But, then you know all this because this is, what, the fifth thread you've made asking the same question?
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#18
RE: Random evolution
(October 31, 2017 at 3:21 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: How random and mindless evolution processes create such complex human minds and bodies?

What makes you think that the human mind is any more complex than the mind of a Dolphin?

Give me an example of when you have communicated with someone over a mile away without using a mobile phone or computer.

Shouting loudly does not count Smile
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#19
RE: Random evolution
(October 31, 2017 at 7:43 pm)Cod Wrote:
(October 31, 2017 at 3:21 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: How random and mindless evolution processes create such complex human minds and bodies?

What makes you think that the human mind is any more complex than the mind of a Dolphin?

Give me an example of when you have communicated with someone over a mile away without using a mobile phone or computer.

Shouting loudly does not count Smile

How about expressing a political opinion in a most vigorous manner, say with a .50 cal. machine gun?
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#20
RE: Random evolution
(October 31, 2017 at 8:09 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(October 31, 2017 at 7:43 pm)Cod Wrote: What makes you think that the human mind is any more complex than the mind of a Dolphin?

Give me an example of when you have communicated with someone over a mile away without using a mobile phone or computer.

Shouting loudly does not count Smile

How about expressing a political opinion in a most vigorous manner, say with a .50 cal. machine gun?

There's communicating, and there's communicating.
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