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RE: Random evolution
October 31, 2017 at 10:39 pm
(October 31, 2017 at 3:49 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: (October 31, 2017 at 3:32 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Because organisms that don't survive...don't survive.
I meant to say that even on surface evolution is creepy. Mechanical and mindless evolution created hardwiring for survival at first and then people who wish to live eternally.
It's not so much hard-wiring as the way things get sorted and culled from one generation to another. Things that aren't particularly good at surviving will generally die off, leaving predominantly things that are good at surviving.
The desire to survive isn't directly attributable to evolution; it's more the result of sentience and self-awareness (and particularly the result of realizing that death exists).
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RE: Random evolution
November 1, 2017 at 3:24 am
Good point Astreja.
Evolution is not even aware that things are alive! How the fuck can it hard wire for it...
If you are made of matter and occupy space in this universe, then you are either dead matter, or with the right mixture of molecules and time, you are living matter.
No difference to the universe, it couldn't give a shit if it tried... 
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RE: Random evolution
November 1, 2017 at 6:58 am
(October 31, 2017 at 8:15 pm)Cod Wrote: (October 31, 2017 at 8:09 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: How about expressing a political opinion in a most vigorous manner, say with a .50 cal. machine gun?
There's communicating, and there's communicating.
I was sending a message. 
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RE: Random evolution
November 1, 2017 at 7:13 am
What about mother nature, where does she come into it? :-)
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RE: Random evolution
November 1, 2017 at 7:21 am
(November 1, 2017 at 7:13 am)Little lunch Wrote: What about mother nature, where does she come into it? :-)
Dying is very natural. 
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RE: Random evolution
November 1, 2017 at 8:01 am
(October 31, 2017 at 7:43 pm)Cod Wrote: (October 31, 2017 at 3:21 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: How random and mindless evolution processes create such complex human minds and bodies?
What makes you think that the human mind is any more complex than the mind of a Dolphin?
Give me an example of when you have communicated with someone over a mile away without using a mobile phone or computer.
Shouting loudly does not count 
Actually it does, rather, because it's about the propagation of soundwaves. Shouting loudly is in effect what dolphins do.
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RE: Random evolution
November 1, 2017 at 8:18 am
(November 1, 2017 at 8:01 am)Cyberman Wrote: (October 31, 2017 at 7:43 pm)Cod Wrote: What makes you think that the human mind is any more complex than the mind of a Dolphin?
Give me an example of when you have communicated with someone over a mile away without using a mobile phone or computer.
Shouting loudly does not count
Actually it does, rather, because it's about the propagation of soundwaves. Shouting loudly is in effect what dolphins do.
And sometimes you can here Paganini wayyy out at Pearl. 
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RE: Random evolution
November 1, 2017 at 1:06 pm
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(October 31, 2017 at 8:09 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (October 31, 2017 at 7:43 pm)Cod Wrote: What makes you think that the human mind is any more complex than the mind of a Dolphin?
Give me an example of when you have communicated with someone over a mile away without using a mobile phone or computer.
Shouting loudly does not count
How about expressing a political opinion in a most vigorous manner, say with a .50 cal. machine gun?
Do you write on the bullet or leave it open to splatter pattern interpretation?
(October 31, 2017 at 4:12 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: (October 31, 2017 at 4:09 pm)Cyberman Wrote: It's no more creepy than gravity. A mechanical and mindless force that we can't see permeating the Universe, keeping whole stars, planets and galaxies from flying apart, and only waiting for one slip of the foot on a high ledge to hurl us to a sticky, messy death?
Gravity doesn't fuck mind with painful fears about hell, humans do with their wild imagination.
Why are you only considering humans when discussing evolution?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: Random evolution
November 1, 2017 at 1:27 pm
(October 31, 2017 at 7:43 pm)Cod Wrote: (October 31, 2017 at 3:21 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: How random and mindless evolution processes create such complex human minds and bodies?
What makes you think that the human mind is any more complex than the mind of a Dolphin?
Give me an example of when you have communicated with someone over a mile away without using a mobile phone or computer.
Shouting loudly does not count
Have you seen Miami play lately?!
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RE: Random evolution
November 1, 2017 at 1:38 pm
(November 1, 2017 at 1:06 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: (October 31, 2017 at 8:09 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: How about expressing a political opinion in a most vigorous manner, say with a .50 cal. machine gun?
Do you write on the bullet or leave it open to splatter pattern interpretation?
That would be up to forensics.
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