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what Was the Tree of Life For?
#31
RE: what Was the Tree of Life For?
(November 10, 2017 at 11:18 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: if Adam was created immortal, why did he need a tree to give him what he already had?


For us to swing around in until we evolved from monkeys, I guess.
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#32
RE: what Was the Tree of Life For?
(November 10, 2017 at 11:18 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: if Adam was created immortal, why did he need a tree to give him what he already had?
and if he weren't created immortal? what if immortality came from the tree of life?
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#33
RE: what Was the Tree of Life For?
Taxi - follow that herring!
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#34
RE: what Was the Tree of Life For?
(November 10, 2017 at 11:18 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: if Adam was created immortal, why did he need a tree to give him what he already had?

He wasn't actually immortal, there was no death until He sinned, after he sinned death came into the creation and he would need the Tree of Life to be immortal. God took them from the Garden to insure that would not happen and that His promise of death because of disobedience was kept. God proved He was good to His word.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#35
RE: what Was the Tree of Life For?
Ridiculous fairy tale.  Things were dying long before the first human crops up.  There obviously was death in the world before "adam". The tree of life is a narrative device...not a demonstration that an equally fictive "god" keeps his word.

Props for categorical incoherence though.,.please explain how anything that is suppoed to live in a "creation" without death isn't immortal? The word means..literally, "no death".
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#36
RE: what Was the Tree of Life For?
(November 16, 2017 at 12:00 am)Godscreated Wrote:
(November 10, 2017 at 11:18 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: if Adam was created immortal, why did he need a tree to give him what he already had?

He wasn't actually immortal, there was no death until He sinned, after he sinned death came into the creation and he would need the Tree of Life to be immortal. God took them from the Garden to insure that would not happen and that His promise of death because of disobedience was kept. God proved He was good to His word.

GC


there's a snag with the tale, prior to eating the fruit knowledge of sin was unknowable

it was a set up, IOWs, and not a very nice (or clever) one


Probably best to announce a (corrective) revelation and schism than to stick with that cluster fuck.
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#37
RE: what Was the Tree of Life For?
(November 10, 2017 at 3:22 pm)Cyberman Wrote: The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil (TKGE) makes zero sense either. Why bother creating either tree, if the only purpose was to make them immediately forbidden (to the extent of surrounding them with impenetrable security after the fact)? The temptation trap could just as easily been laid using bog-standard trees, without the risk of giving superpowers.

Remember, the king of Tyre lived in the Garden of Eden so maybe he was the Adam character?
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#38
RE: what Was the Tree of Life For?
(November 16, 2017 at 12:00 am)Godscreated Wrote:
(November 10, 2017 at 11:18 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: if Adam was created immortal, why did he need a tree to give him what he already had?

He wasn't actually immortal, there was no death until He sinned, after he sinned death came into the creation and he would need the Tree of Life to be immortal. God took them from the Garden to insure that would not happen and that His promise of death because of disobedience was kept. God proved He was good to His word.

GC

So, the tree of life had no purpose, but since he knew they would sin, he created it ahead of time so he could keep them away from it.

Got it.
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