Travis Walton versus The Resurrection.

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I understand what you are trying to say it's been clear from the get go, I just do not accept it. I know what the Omniscient God of the universe says and according to Him you are wrong.

really he told you that did he.
If not how did you come by this piece of information?

Can't ignore what I already know to be real and truthful and it would be stupid to try. You want to deal with me as though you were Satan himself and it want work because god protects those who are His and I am one of those. 

And I know that god is a stupid idea and can't ignore that.

Ignoring God is exactly what you are doing and it want fly at the Judgement.

I ignore gnomes everyday and the hipoogryph gets none of my attention.

You had to make a choice no matter what you might think is or isn't true, I had no idea whether you ever believed or not. No one just doesn't believe all people from past experiences form an opinion through those experiences in life.

I can no more believe in god than I can levitate.
It is not a choice to believe or not to believe, you either do or you don't.
I don't.

At least you tell the truth about this, saying it's your opinion. If you do not come to accept Christ you will find that I have been honest with you when you die. Just remember once a persons life is over there are no choices.

sure there is, cremation or burial.

There is nothing when a person dies. That's it game over man!

Life after death is like saying theres pizza after pizza.

No there isn't.

I suppose you have proof there's no afterlife? Sure there's pizza after pizza all you have to do is open the next box.

but what if there is only one box! 

The Bible is a good place to start and a local church can be of great help.
God is the all powerful creator and savior of this world.

I don't think that that is correct.

You better be sure.

as sure as I can be.

God is spirit, outside of that I can not say.

so you don't know!

And yet you use the phrase as though it has meaning.

"Spirit" is not a thing.

That is how God describes Himself to us, it's so we can have some kind of understanding that He is not like us.

well its wasn't  a very helpful description.
Almost as though is some kind of made up substance like mitichlonians.

God has no beginning, He has always existed.

Prove it.

 This is what God has said and I believe it because He has never lied to me.

when has god ever contacted you in  a form that a devise other than the human mind could detect? 

He did not come from anywhere, He has always existed everywhere.

Then so could the universe negating the requirement for a god.

The universe requires a creator and that is God.

no it doesn't.

What you have heard are stories of the only God and what He is capable of. How could you know if an argument about God is ill thought out, you know nothing of Him.

Indeed. And the more I hear the more stupid it sounds.

That's because you desire it, too.

if god was real I would find it interesting. But there isn't one. I am only interested in the truth not ancient debunked myths.

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And instantly you ruin it by actually gong against all available evidence.

I just posted an article where speciation had actually been documented in the wild in birds for the first time. You are so wrong it just isn't funny

Strange how it seems to be americans who cling to the old stories and ignore the facts.

Strange how people who claim to be logical can fool themselves into believing there is evidence of evolution when none has ever been presented, I did not read the article you posted but i'm sure I  know what it's about, guess what those birds are still birds, just because different birds can breed with each other doesn't mean evolution has taken place.
I suppose you would call all the different breeds of dogs different species, yet ever one of them can breed with each other and any of the wild dogs. Wolves and coyotes have been doing so for a long time. By the way if those islands are so isolated how is it that this one bird made it there, bet that never occurred to you did it and since it did how many others have made it over the last few thousand years. I'm not going to argue evolution in this thread I have done it in others and it leads to nothing.

This shows that you do not understand evolution so it probably is pointless to argue with you on it,  I know how it works has been explained to you time and time again and you just don't get it.

I understand the theory just fine. I find it lacking in many ways and I can see faults in it. At least i take the time to study the theory, I'm sure you can't say the same about Christianity.

Every time you write on the subject of evolution you demonstrate that you do not understand it "just fine" or indeed at all.

I live in England where when I grew up religious studies was one of the subjects and 90% of it was on Christianity. I saw it as a sort of look into the primitive mind.

Going to church is not "doing good" its just wasting time unless they serve a good coffee and have an active social calendar, in which case its a club.

 Going to church to worship God is a good thing even though you can't comprehend it. Much good is received by those who are sincere in their worship of God and their fellowship with their fellow Christians.

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Well I'm glad you enjoy it.

To me going to church is the most odious  tedium every time I've been dragged there. Makes  me yawn just thinking of it.

  That's because you do not care about learning about the God who has given you life.

As I said I am only interested in the truth and what you believe isn't it.


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