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Would God be an atheist?
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RE: Would God be an atheist?
(November 15, 2017 at 6:05 pm)Grandizer Wrote:
(November 15, 2017 at 6:02 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I don't think Atheists generally are honest about the word honestly. I just don't believe it anymore.

What you think is meaningless to me. Theists won't even try to explain even a little how they honestly know God exists, and that's because I'm pretty sure they don't have a clue if it's really God they've been feeling or not.

If it helps you sleep, maybe keep lying to yourself. If it bothers you, little doses of honesty here and there will help bring you away from your deceiving state of self.
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#22
RE: Would God be an atheist?
(November 15, 2017 at 6:02 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I don't think Atheists generally are honest about the word honestly. I just don't believe it anymore. I believe they lie to themselves every day about not knowing God.

And I believe you've officially crossed the line from addled to full-on douchebag.

Honestly.
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#23
RE: Would God be an atheist?
Y'know, I don't have anyone on my ignore list, currently but I wonder what the point is in having conversations with someone who assumes you're not honestly representing your position?
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#24
RE: Would God be an atheist?
(November 15, 2017 at 5:50 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(November 15, 2017 at 5:45 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: You think I'm lying about what I've wondered? Y'know, you don't have to be a petty little shit, you're not worth the effort of attempting to deceive. If you don't trust me to tell the truth about what I've wondered, fuck you.
I think you were coming something to argue with Theists, not actually wondering about the Creator that you know exists. And I don't believe most Atheists honestly doubt God, I believe they deceiving lie to themselves about God and disbelieve in God in that regard.
It was a hard thing for me to realize, but I do realize it now. There are some confused Atheists, I don't believe you are one of them.

(November 15, 2017 at 5:46 pm)Martian Mermaid Wrote: I don't worship myself, thanks.
You are right, you worship illusions of yourself because you lie to yourself about what you have become, which the witness testifies to, and which you are too afraid to look at and admit because of what disbelief in God and rebellion against him truly is.
You don't know yourself to even worship and value that above all, for who knows themselves, knows their Lord.
I don't worship myself or illusions of myself. In fact, I think myself to be quite average, and am constantly trying to improve myself, as should everyone. Under no circumstances would I ever think myself worthy of worship. I am nothing special, I am certainly not a God. 
Also, I reject your claim that a person has to know the lord to know themselves, as there is no lord to know. God is merely an idea. 
To know yourself, you have to question yourself and be honest with yourself. Worshiping a God that may or may not exist does nothing to progress that.
The bugle sounds as the charge begins

But on this battlefield no one wins

- Iron Maiden, The Trooper
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RE: Would God be an atheist?
(November 15, 2017 at 5:31 pm)Martian Mermaid Wrote:
(November 11, 2017 at 4:31 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Re creator, would he believe or would he know? 

Maybe god knows he's not alone, ya know, overbearing mom, bitchy sister, detached father (this would explain some things). The monotheists down here may not have it right and only talk about the spoiled brat of the family. I guess this kinda takes care of the higher power issue also. 

Think Trelane.
Reminds me of Greek mythology. 
Anyway, do these other family members would have universes too? Or do you think they would possess the other planets in this universe? 
I guess they could be anything since a God could be whatever the human imagination can come up with.

The other family members? If omnipotent I think they'd have better things to do than feed their ego by burning ants with a magnifying glass.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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RE: Would God be an atheist?
(November 15, 2017 at 6:07 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote:
(November 15, 2017 at 6:02 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I don't think Atheists generally are honest about the word honestly. I just don't believe it anymore. I believe they lie to themselves every day about not knowing God.

And I believe you've officially crossed the line from addled to full-on douchebag.

Honestly.

Our system of manners and ethics for our mutual benefit relationships will all be cut off, and it's truly those who guarded their souls who will have the remaining love that doesn't perish, and the relationship to one another they had was based on truth.

When you realize evil for what is, the dark confusing clouds and shadows for what they are,  there is no turning back.

Everyone can claim the position of honest doubt and attempt to confuse and belittle those who have clear proofs.

The mystery to the question, why doesn't God prove himself to Atheists, is quite simple and trivial. They lie to themselves and won't stop till the punishment comes to them.
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#27
RE: Would God be an atheist?
Ignore Mystic he pretensions asshole . Who assumes he know people better then they know themselves.
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#28
RE: Would God be an atheist?
(November 15, 2017 at 6:15 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(November 15, 2017 at 6:07 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: And I believe you've officially crossed the line from addled to full-on douchebag.

Honestly.

Our system of manners and ethics for our mutual benefit relationships will all be cut off, and it's truly those who guarded their souls who will have the remaining love that doesn't perish, and the relationship to one another they had was based on truth.

When you realize evil for what is, the dark confusing clouds and shadows for what they are,  there is no turning back.

Everyone can claim the position of honest doubt and attempt to confuse and belittle those who have clear proofs.

The mystery to the question, why doesn't God prove himself to Atheists, is quite simple and trivial. They lie to themselves and won't stop till the punishment comes to them.

I rest my case.
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#29
RE: Would God be an atheist?
(November 15, 2017 at 6:11 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Y'know, I don't have anyone on my ignore list, currently but I wonder what the point is in having conversations with someone who assumes you're not honestly representing your position?

If Atheists were honest to themselves, Theism as good righteous position would be dismissed.  There would be no merit to faith. If belief in God was something like believing in a intelectual theory, it would not be linked to good and evil.

But isn't that the whole point? Atheists are constantly trying to convince there is no merit to faith as opposed to taking the issue of God existing or not existing seriously.

I been here a long time. You can put me on your ignore list. It doesn't bother me.
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#30
RE: Would God be an atheist?
If faith is needed to believe something, then it is definitionally possible to not believe it, from which I conclude that you're being dishonest about believing that we're lying, which means you're trolling.

I think I'll just move forward keeping constantly in mind what a disingenuous and slimy little eel you are.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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