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"Why not a proof/Sign/indication" - challenge and various responses to it in Quran.

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"Why not a proof/Sign/indication" - challenge and various responses to it in Quran.
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RE: "Why not a proof/Sign/indication" - challenge and various responses to it in Quran.
November 13, 2017 at 4:54 pm
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RE: "Why not a proof/Sign/indication" - challenge and various responses to it in Quran.
November 13, 2017 at 5:13 pm
(November 13, 2017 at 4:41 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Intro

If someone claimed to be a Prophet in this age, people would be right to demand a decisive proof.

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At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: "Why not a proof/Sign/indication" - challenge and various responses to it in Quran.
November 13, 2017 at 5:19 pm
(November 13, 2017 at 4:54 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(November 13, 2017 at 4:52 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: In other words first believe without proof, then continue believing without proof


no thanks

We will see the Quran condemns believing without proof or attributing anything to God and his religion without proof.

Hold your horse young Pandawan.

Nothing that comes out of the Quran, the Bible, or any other printed source in any language constitutes proof.
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RE: "Why not a proof/Sign/indication" - challenge and various responses to it in Quran.
November 13, 2017 at 5:48 pm (This post was last modified: November 13, 2017 at 5:48 pm by Mystic.)
(November 13, 2017 at 5:19 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:
(November 13, 2017 at 4:54 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: We will see the Quran condemns believing without proof or attributing anything to God and his religion without proof.

Hold your horse young Pandawan.

Nothing that comes out of the Quran, the Bible, or any other printed source in any language constitutes proof.

You are right. Hold your horses. You will see that God is very precise with what he says constitutes proof.
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November 13, 2017 at 5:49 pm
"He" says shit about proof. It's arrogant pricks like you that do the talking for your little god puppet.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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November 13, 2017 at 5:49 pm
(November 13, 2017 at 5:49 pm)Cyberman Wrote: "He" says shit about proof. It's arrogant pricks like you that do the talking for your little god puppet.

Except there are so many verses about this subject, so he says a lot.
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November 13, 2017 at 5:59 pm
I don't care about literature in this thread. We were talking about gods.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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November 13, 2017 at 8:30 pm
It's almost as if he didn't read my post. ?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

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November 13, 2017 at 8:37 pm
(November 13, 2017 at 8:30 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: It's almost as if he didn't read my post.  ?

This is about the Quranic perspective of what constitutes proof and human condition with respect to proofs from God.

I am going to ask not to sidetrack the issue.  If you are not interested in what Quran has to say, that is up to you.
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RE: "Why not a proof/Sign/indication" - challenge and various responses to it in Quran.
November 13, 2017 at 10:03 pm
(November 13, 2017 at 8:37 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(November 13, 2017 at 8:30 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: It's almost as if he didn't read my post.  ?

This is about the Quranic perspective of what constitutes proof and human condition with respect to proofs from God.

I am going to ask not to sidetrack the issue.  If you are not interested in what Quran has to say, that is up to you.

There is no such thing as, "the Quranic perspective" of proof.  Something either qualifies as proof, or it doesn't.  Proof should be objective.  Mangling the accepted definition of a word beyond recognition in an attempt to shift the burden of proof is fallacious.
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