RE: Disappointment in God's idea
November 27, 2017 at 2:06 pm
(This post was last modified: November 27, 2017 at 2:12 pm by purplepurpose.)
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Disappointment in God's idea
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 (November 27, 2017 at 1:59 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Which god? Trick question, right ? We're talking about Zeus again. The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
 (November 27, 2017 at 1:40 pm)alpha male Wrote:(November 27, 2017 at 11:51 am)purplepurpose Wrote: It took me some time to figure out why so many people are so strongly disappointed in religion. It's indeed depressing to face a God's idea where he is either your Master for whom you are something of a slave Mystic quotes the Koran, so by your logic since he does that you should blindly believe him. Or don't expect us to buy your circular reasoning when you won't accept that from others. Somebody else could quote Harry Potter too.  RE: Disappointment in God's idea
November 27, 2017 at 2:43 pm
(This post was last modified: November 27, 2017 at 2:57 pm by purplepurpose.)
(November 27, 2017 at 2:35 pm)vorlon13 Wrote:(November 27, 2017 at 1:59 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Which god? "There were four divisions of the Greek afterlife.
Nothing changed. 
People are disappointed for a simple reason: religion doesn't work, science does.
(November 27, 2017 at 2:06 pm)purplepurpose Wrote:(November 27, 2017 at 1:59 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Which god? If you look at the entire global history of all dead mythology, and still believed religions, you will find the same motifs of "reward/punishment", it is not exclusive to monotheisms. Japanese history and Asian history, and even India history includes ideas of reward/punishment in the afterlife. Most humans just like antiquity, most humans worldwide, even today have some sort of belief in being good now for reward later, or being bad ending up in some sort of punishment later. Buddhists and Hindus have concepts of "karma" and "reincarnation", and those are also concepts of reward/punishments. You don't have to have a belief in a monotheistic God, to believe you continue in some way after death. Some concepts are the worship of spirits, and if you do good you go up, if you do bad, you get stuck in the underworld. Not enough humans have a good exposure of world history when it comes to religion and mythology. Once you start comparing more and more the motifs might have different details, some with gods, others with mere spirits, or a concept of recycling, but all of them are thoughts of morality and what happens in this life will determine where you go in the afterlife. Point is, it is a childish way of gap filling. It is an unfortunate side effect of our species flawed perceptions. A mere reflection of our evolutionary drive to continue.  (November 30, 2017 at 8:39 am)Face2face Wrote: People are disappointed for a simple reason: religion doesn't work, science does. No, religion does exactly what it says on the tin. It tries to disable critical thinking and programmes people into blind acceptance of anything sold them under the religious brand. There's a reason for the epithet 'flock'. In this, religion works beautifully. It's gods that don't work.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 Quote:16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ What horseshit.  (November 27, 2017 at 11:51 am)purplepurpose Wrote: It took me some time to figure out why so many people are so strongly disappointed in religion. It's indeed depressing to face a God's idea where he is either your Master for whom you are something of a slave(Got very ill - praise the lord, reason for the sickness is your sinfulness). Or his "filtering system" will have to respond in extremely disproportionate way. Try this on for size: a quote* from Dan Barker, http://www.thinkatheist.com/photo/dan-ba...-will-i-be . . . Quote:“Asking, "If there is no God, then what is the purpose of life? " . . .{* = modified}
There are no atheists in terrorist training camps.
Its more the stuff people insist on clinging to in spite of the evidence and logic, and despite their education and intelligence, that disappoints me. And I think this way about conspiracy theorists and pseudoscience proponents as well. Its not just theists.
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