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RE: Religion stifles Moral Evolution
December 1, 2017 at 6:47 pm
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Or jesus wandering around the sticks in a dress with a bunch of men, washing each others feet. Degenerates.
Can I get a ruling from the Big Book of Gay how many times a "committed bachelor" can hand out or receive loving foot massages from doting men before we have to pull their hetero card?
Gotta be somewhere between 1 and 12. 
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RE: Religion stifles Moral Evolution
December 1, 2017 at 6:51 pm
(December 1, 2017 at 6:46 pm)Succubus Wrote: (December 1, 2017 at 1:49 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: ... Natural Law...
What is this capitalised 'Natural Law' of which you speak and where may I read up on this? Outside of theology that is.
Google is your friend:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law
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RE: Religion stifles Moral Evolution
December 1, 2017 at 6:53 pm
(December 1, 2017 at 6:47 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Or jesus wandering around the sticks in a dress with a bunch of men, washing each others feet. Degenerates.
Can I get a ruling from the Big Book of Gay how many times a "committed bachelor" can hand out or receive loving foot massages from doting men before we have to pull their hetero card?
Gotta be somewhere between 1 and 12.
In 42 years of active homosexuality, can't say anyone has ever washed my feet.
Sniffed, ejaculated upon, removed my sox and shoes to facilitate removing pants, and offered a butthole for the right one (always the right one for some reason) to find a home therein, but never a wash job . . . .
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RE: Religion stifles Moral Evolution
December 1, 2017 at 6:53 pm
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(December 1, 2017 at 3:25 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: (December 1, 2017 at 2:04 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: People don't choose to be diabetic, have Down's syndrome, or become near-sighted either.
We should be viewing same sex attraction as a disease/disorder? Nice!
Except when people who are diabetic chose not to change that condition, we don’t dispage them, or kill them.
A good case can be made that people who chose to be like neo, on the other hand, need to be disparaged, preferably after they are killed.
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RE: Religion stifles Moral Evolution
December 1, 2017 at 6:57 pm
(December 1, 2017 at 5:38 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: (December 1, 2017 at 5:02 pm)SteveII Wrote: That's an entirely different topic. My interest right now is on the thread title and the idea that morality should evolve.
Thank you for the example. Did the NT say to drown or burn "witches"? If not, your complaint is that a group added their own crap to NT instructions and then it was subsequently found to be crap. The OP did not say "misuses of religion stifles moral evolution", so I am assuming that it is the original instructions which define a Christian that has the "stifling" effect.
Are you suggesting that the new testament says that we are to abandon law altogether? That seems a bit steep.
'Abandon' isn't the right word. The moral laws of the OT were summarized/encapsulated in the NT message/instructions and following them would ensure (and in some cases exceed) satisfying the OT prescriptions. The other civil and dietary laws were for another people in another context.
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RE: Religion stifles Moral Evolution
December 1, 2017 at 6:59 pm
The NT message on the subject of witches is the same as the OT message.
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RE: Religion stifles Moral Evolution
December 1, 2017 at 7:00 pm
So I guess you're not ever going to address my post where I responded to you about the NT stuff that I found. Nice dodge there Steve.
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RE: Religion stifles Moral Evolution
December 1, 2017 at 7:02 pm
(December 1, 2017 at 6:32 pm)Succubus Wrote: (December 1, 2017 at 12:58 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I would change "social bonding" to "marital bonding" and would say that the whole purpose of this bond happening in the first place is to help the couple stay together in case there is a child involved. That is literally why sex evolved the way it did.
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You've obviously never heard of oxytocin. That's ok.
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RE: Religion stifles Moral Evolution
December 1, 2017 at 7:04 pm
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You won't find the notion that homosex is icky outside of religious professions of natural law, no point wasting your time looking. The new rationalization appears to be "Homosex is icky because oxytocin"....but, ah, that;s operative in homosexual relationships as well. I think that folks should probably stick with "Magic book said so"...so that they don't come off like craven loons, relatively speaking, ofc.
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RE: Religion stifles Moral Evolution
December 1, 2017 at 7:15 pm
(December 1, 2017 at 6:51 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (December 1, 2017 at 6:46 pm)Succubus Wrote: What is this capitalised 'Natural Law' of which you speak and where may I read up on this? Outside of theology that is.
Google is your friend:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law
Did you read that very long and most uninformative article?
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Quote:The natural law was inherently teleological, however, it is most assuredly not deontological. For Christians, natural law is how man manifests the divine image in his life. This mimicry of God's own life is impossible to accomplish except by means of the power of grace.
It's theology! And it doesn’t mean a fucking thing in the real world.
But for now, forget about me, you have many, many issues to contend with upthread.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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