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RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
January 13, 2018 at 3:39 pm
(January 13, 2018 at 3:30 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: God damn it; no wonder Muslims are getting their asses kicked worldwide.
Maybe people ought to stop bullshitting each other about djinn altogether.
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RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
January 13, 2018 at 3:41 pm
Yeah forget the gathering of Humans and Jinn that work together to destroy the reminder and the delay victory, that will help our resolve a lot.
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RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
January 13, 2018 at 3:45 pm
(January 13, 2018 at 3:30 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: OP; you don't have any shame or leftovers of dignity ?
Look at the comments. Nobody cares, even readers don't care.
You are repeating the same broken record, doing the same gymnastic jumps around arguments; copy-paste walls of text in one sad cycle.
Are you a computer? Or just a very sad Shiite missionary ?
God damn it; no wonder Muslims are getting their asses kicked worldwide. If we gave you an excuse of being a part of the "weak" sect; majorities from bigger sects are as sad as you.
Empty brains, walls of text, gymnastic jumps around counter-argument, and moreover: no shame waging sectarian crusades, and when people begin to question or discuss, messed up words about love and mental illness get vomited out of your mouth.
Instead; give the members some pictures and articles about the crimes of your cult; would ya ? xD
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Hey Atlass33, I DO blaspheme him and you and Catholic Lady and I will go after Buddhists and Hindus, AND EVEN other atheists on different subjects if I think they got it wrong.
MK makes me want to pull my hair out, but that is just saying his logic irritates me. But again, most humans get sold the religions of their parents BEFORE they can formulate adult critical thinking skills, so it is not just him, and not just Islam.
But you are right, I am not taking his arguments seriously. But I also don't take claims of magic babies with super powers with no second set of DNA seriously either.
I DO however get concerned when Christians or Muslims or Jews use politics to justify murdering each other based on religion.
Atlass33 every religion WORLDWIDE has been used as a weapon to justify harm to others. It isn't that you can force any out of existence you cant, but Islam didn't invent human cruelty either. I have seen Christians and Jews also use religion to do horrible things to their fellow human beings.
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RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
January 13, 2018 at 3:48 pm
And one of the truths regarding 42:23 in the Bible is the meaning of Seth which means "appointed" and one of the truths regarding 42:23 in the Bible is the meaning of Samuel which means name of God, and of the truths is the meaning of Noah which means relief, and one of the most emphasized of it's purpose and wisdom, in the Quran is the words to Moses "bring your people from the darkness to the light" and "And by mount Sinai" and his words "That they may understand my word" "Aaron my brother" and "what the family of Moses and the family of Aaron has left, the Angels carrying it, indeed this is a sign for you if you are believers" "That he may verify me" and "And those who follow you both will be victorious".
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RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
January 13, 2018 at 3:52 pm
(January 13, 2018 at 3:41 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Yeah forget the gathering of Humans and Jinn that work together to destroy the reminder and the delay victory, that will help our resolve a lot.
There are no "victories" in religious wars, just a bunch of dead people whom murder each other because they are too stupid to see that they are NOT a separate species. And again MK, I am not singling Islam out, I think Christians and Jews depending on individual and or sect, can be just as stupid and tribal in their thinking.
DEAD IS DEAD and our universe doesn't give a shit who dies, but humans should give a shit. I wish more humans would give a shit about not murdering each other.
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RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
January 13, 2018 at 3:53 pm
(January 13, 2018 at 2:56 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (January 13, 2018 at 2:54 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: All religions are false.
So perhaps a religion that explains how they are all false would be the true religion if shows why they are all false and why the path is different than what they call to.
Nope. Replacing religion with yet another religion is an utterly bovine idea.
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RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
January 13, 2018 at 3:55 pm
(January 13, 2018 at 3:48 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: And one of the truths regarding 42:23 in the Bible is the meaning of Seth which means "appointed" and one of the truths regarding 42:23 in the Bible is the meaning of Samuel which means name of God, and of the truths is the meaning of Noah which means relief, and one of the most emphasized of it's purpose and wisdom, in the Quran is the words to Moses "bring your people from the darkness to the light" and "And by mount Sinai" and his words "That they may understand my word" "Aaron my brother" and "what the family of Moses and the family of Aaron has left, the Angels carrying it, indeed this is a sign for you if you are believers" "That he may verify me" and "And those who follow you both will be victorious".
Um no, prior to Islam using that character name "Seth" it was a name also "Set" used by Egyptian polytheism. Just like Yahweh was a Canaanite polytheistic deity.
No, I am sick of Jews and Muslims and Christians chasing this STUPID idea of "victory" and using MY planet to conduct their sky daddy wars.
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RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
January 13, 2018 at 3:55 pm
(January 13, 2018 at 3:52 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I wish more humans would give a shit about not murdering each other.
As do I and I think the primary reason behind wars is chaotic love and unbalanced unordered love, that is love not accurately in vision with God's Name and that doesn't heighten God above all else and love everyone in the truth of God's witnessing mystic link that connects us all and establishes all fabrics of relationships and who we ask thereby God the rights of one another. That is one of the wisdoms of 42:23. In that love, lies the holding on the rope of God and in the rope of God we are all connected, and if we are all connected, there will be a love between us and brotherhood that God has been trying to establish through Messengers, but we been holding on to a chaotic idol and love to an illusion and unbalanced irrational love which heightens ourselves above all others in love and importance.
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RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
January 13, 2018 at 3:55 pm
(January 13, 2018 at 3:39 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (January 13, 2018 at 3:30 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: God damn it; no wonder Muslims are getting their asses kicked worldwide.
Maybe people ought to stop bullshitting each other about djinn altogether.
On serious grounds; it proves my point even more: nobody cares.
The posts between me and the OP, contain a lot of accusations and a list of questions from my side; he never answers them. Hence why he got the title "troll".
His behavior is suppressed because it's the internet. But if I was in a community filled with similar individuals; I would've got my head impaled on a spike.
It's not a democracy under his religion. It's a totalitarian chaos; to be honest. Dictatorship of the 12 Imams.
He doesn't even has the balls to say it officially, but that is his cult.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelver
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RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
January 13, 2018 at 4:02 pm
(January 13, 2018 at 3:55 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (January 13, 2018 at 3:52 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I wish more humans would give a shit about not murdering each other.
As do I and I think the primary reason behind wars is chaotic love and unbalanced unordered love, that is love not accurately in vision with God's Name and that doesn't heighten God above all else and love everyone in the truth of God's witnessing mystic link that connects us all and establishes all fabrics of relationships and who we ask thereby God the rights of one another. That is one of the wisdoms of 42:23. In that love, lies the holding on the rope of God and in the rope of God we are all connected, and if we are all connected, there will be a love between us and brotherhood that God has been trying to establish through Messengers, but we been holding on to a chaotic idol and love to an illusion and unbalanced irrational love which heightens ourselves above all others in love and importance.
"Love" is NOT an invention owned by or a patent of one religion. "Love" is not something you are forced into or submit to. Love is a species emotion, not a magical thing.
PLEASE stop trying to claim only you know what your book says, or only you know what love is.
Atheists feel love too, and we don't need a deity or God to feel it, nor was it handed down to our species by Allah, or Jesus or Yahweh.
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