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RE: People in bible never existed according to head of Theology at a university in UK!
January 1, 2018 at 1:39 am
Quote:, it's the experts, whom by your own admission you believe without question.
he never said anything to this effect . Once again your dishonesty on full display .
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RE: People in bible never existed according to head of Theology at a university in UK!
January 1, 2018 at 2:24 am
Quote: Finkelstein sounds like a hater...
Compared to you, Finkelstein is a genius.
BTW, Finkelstein's Low Chronology has been sustained by carbon dating studies.... but you don't care about that because all that matters to you are your fucking fairy tales.
Why don't you try to exert your brain and figure out who else might be on the Philistia-Judaean border? This was 200 or so years after the Philistines had arrived in the area... something else your silly bible fucks up...and so they had plenty of time to establish themselves. Judaea, sadly for you and your bullshit, remained a shitty little desert area where an relative handful of mainly nomadic people herded sheep and goats and made no mark on the world at all. Unless you consider sheep shit making a mark?
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RE: People in bible never existed according to head of Theology at a university in UK!
January 1, 2018 at 3:30 am
(January 1, 2018 at 12:49 am)DLJ Wrote: (December 31, 2017 at 11:25 pm)Godscreated Wrote: ...
it matters what God is doing in her life.
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Man, that sounds so weird!
Mother-in-law-gods or stalker-gods? Either way, I hear the rebuttal, "Will you please just get outta my life!?!?!"
I din't think so.
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RE: People in bible never existed according to head of Theology at a university in UK!
January 1, 2018 at 5:39 am
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RE: People in bible never existed according to head of Theology at a university in UK!
January 1, 2018 at 6:44 pm
(January 1, 2018 at 12:57 am)AFTT47 Wrote: Thanks for the link to Francesca Stavrakopoulou. She's great! History isn't one of my subjects. It's nice to find someone who explains it so well.
And after watching this and seeing what kind of force is invested trough money and all sorts of interests to discover any archaeological evidence for king David and after all that all they got is two seals that the best thing that they have going for them is that they can't be dismissed to be from David. No castles, no buildings, no clay tiles writings, no statues...
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: People in bible never existed according to head of Theology at a university in UK!
January 1, 2018 at 8:28 pm
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: People in bible never existed according to head of Theology at a university in UK!
January 1, 2018 at 9:09 pm
(December 30, 2017 at 12:29 am)Godscreated Wrote: (December 29, 2017 at 11:48 pm)Fireball Wrote: Bolding mine. My experience with the search for truth leans more towards this kind of lie being a Lie for Christ. I hope that before you die, you have a chance to repent. 
I've repented to the One who is in control of all things and He is the only one who counts. It is those like you that I worry about, after death there are no second chances with God.
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Why a HE though pretty sure god of the bible is an IT because the bible never stated god had a gender. Besides isn't the concept of god and gender redundant if god was a guy
and its only him.. what is he doing right now other than godly masturbation.
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RE: People in bible never existed according to head of Theology at a university in UK!
January 2, 2018 at 7:59 am
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(December 30, 2017 at 1:40 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: To require details to match exactly seems pedantic. I'm an Atheist, obviously I don't believe in miracles. However Alexander the great, Ghenghis Khan, even modern people like Geranimo have miracles associated with them. I don't not believe they existed because people associated miracles with them.
Not speaking for Boru, but "miracles" are why I don't believe in the christ myth. I don't believe in the jesus legend because it's no better supported than the christ myth and has problems all it's own. It;s the same reason I don't believe in the Paul Bunyan legend, regardless of whether or not there was a mythically large blue ox.
Alexander, Ghenghis, Geronimo...these were real people with legends and myths attached. Each very well established. With "jesus"..the reverse seems to be true. Myths and legends with a man attached as an afterthought.
As far as what you specified as the core, as it were, of some jesus the man....well, why bethlehem, why nazereth? We were willing to negotiate on so much of the other particulars how about these as well? If not...why not, honestly? Early christians were certainly divided over the details of the "mundane" jesus...and even whether or not there was one. The man we know as the hypothetically historical jesus is just as much of a story as the supernatural stuff. Their are, in fact..entire genres of fiction with no ghosts and ghouls in them (I find it ironic that we're even discussing that in the context of a story that -is- about ghosts and ghouls).
So long as we're willing to race to the bottom in search of even a single similarity I'm sure we could find 100's of jesus' (can we call them je-si, lol?) in the ANE. Just as we'd be able to find a bunch of french lumberjacks applying a pthalo blue pesticide and antifungal to their oxen. Tics, there are metric shotloads of tics in trees. They have a tendency to jump ship when you cut one down. They'd really cake in on to prevent the spread of disease. Will we believe either story is more or less a biography after having done so?
Not for nothing, the human origin of the bunyan myth -and- legend as having a proto-paul who atually lived is on more solid ground than the historical jesus narrative...and neither rise to the level of Alexander, Ghenghis, or Geronimo.
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