Hubble's Law in the Quran long before Hubble's own discovery

[Jackie]

I agree that religions borrow or steal motifs from prior religions, but no, it does not NOT "confirm" "Plank Time" or "expanding space" or the "Big Bang" anymore than the ancient Greek's use of the word "atom" confirmed quarks, or electrons or protons or neutrons. 

All that ancient squiggle confirms is people guessed and made those bad guesses on prior polytheism whom, those polytheist were as ignorant of modern science as monotheists.

POINT IS, that nobody, worldwide had any clue of what we know today.

Sir I'll have you know Ancient Pastafarianeese is not squiggle; Like Latin, Esperanto and Donald Trumps tweets, It is a language very few can read and understand.

Ok I gotcha now. 

[WinterHold]

[Jackie]

Here's a thought.

Instead of scouring your magic book to find bits that can be sort of twisted to retrofit things we already know, how about trying to find what it says about the next big discovery? Something we haven't discovered for ourselves through actual science yet? Wouldn't that be a better use for the thing?

You never know, you might come up with a cure for cancer, or spacewarp physics or something. Pointing at mythology, squinting a bit and saying "ha ha, we found it first but nobody noticed until we knew what to look for" doesn't help very much.

100 years ago, this was "new things" that nobody ever knew.
The scientific community said that space is static up until 1922, and that's the earliest record for such a fact being derived from the equations of general relativity.

1400 years ago, the Quran said that. And instead of having faith, many advocated stories of flying horses mentioned in the Hadith. Look where these people are now.

The Quran is not a manufacturing guide, or a book of cosmology and science. It's a message.
Then again; it spoke about an afterlife where creation will get repeated. Many laughed at the thought through time, until science found out that it's a real actual possibility.

I think it already said a lot. And already people lost the chance to concentrate on what it says a lot.

Atlass, NO NO NO NO, and just NO.

"Expansion" the way they used it, had an ANCIENT ignorant meaning, just like when the ancient Greeks used the word "atom" it didn't mean the same thing as modern science uses the term now.

AND AGAIN, every religion has apologists whom try to retrofit modern science to old mythology. Scientific method is a tool, not a religion, it is completely religion independent.

[Cyberman]

Congratulations, Atlas, for making your claim unfalsifiable. And that's not a good thing.


Yep. This whole thing is a babyish game of "nuh-uh, I said it first so I win!", hiding behind the pretend shield of authority.

Sorry, but most of us outgrew shit like that when we got out of nappies (diapers, for the USians). It's a message, alright - it says that some people have a lot of catching up to do.

The whole point is showing why I believe in what I quoted and said; and to show my believe criteria that is based on mere logic and authenticity.
I judged, and my judgement was as follows: this is an ancient book, that said clearly that the universe is expanding. If negation of the previous exists; I will gladly take it and even advocate it.

No, the point is for the proponent of the claim - you, in this case - to support such claim as it pertains to actual reality. It is not someone else's job to negate it, even if they can. Burden of proof, remember?

The game is life, not human nature. Actually; if somebody created a brand first, it's a crime by international law for somebody else to claim authorship over the brand.

No, the game is cherry-picking bits from arcane texts and then pretending they revealed scientific discoveries before they were made - despite the fact that it's only because of the discoveries that you are able to cherry-pick in the first place. That's why I challenged you to find the next big scientific discovery before science does. You'll be incredibly famous, as well as potentially saving lives.

Also, gods are subject to and protected by international law?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

It's "Planck time." Not that accuracy is important in this thread.

[Nay_Sayer]

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the teaching of the first Sumerian Collander scrolls.

Wait.  I thought the Collander Scrolls were written by the FSM?

That was it's plan, Sadly the great lord above all lords FSM suffered a bad case of tennis elbow and had to have humans transcribe his wisdom.

Humans being the failable beings we are goofed it up.

Atlas. You are wrong, Things can expand forever, For example, your ignorance seems limitless.

[Jehanne]

The verse in Arabic:

والسماء بنيناها بأيد وإنا لموسعون

I think that Mohamed was a pedophile who had epilepsy with delusions of grandeur.

[Minimalist]

I can't read Arabic but if a version of the Koran uses a word that can be translated into either "guardian" or "manager" then that copy of the Koran was written in modern times.

You'd think a fucking "angel" would know that going in and plan accordingly.  Of course, that presupposes that you believe there are fucking "angels."

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I can't read Arabic but if a version of the Koran uses a word that can be translated into either "guardian" or "manager" then that copy of the Koran was written in modern times.

You'd think a fucking "angel" would know that going in and plan accordingly.  Of course, that presupposes that you believe there are fucking "angels."

Damn shame a GOD can't produce an unambiguous text that doesn't require guesswork, imagination, deliberate misinformation, and "holy men" to interpret it. But if you replace "GOD" with "some damn jerkoff" it works perfectly fine. Humans are lazy fucks.

[Wyrd of Gawd]