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RE: Is there any "atheist values" like "Christian values"?
January 6, 2018 at 10:47 pm
(January 6, 2018 at 10:23 pm)pool the matey Wrote: One of the great things I feel like there is with Christianity is there are "Christian values", you absolutely have to align your values with these. Personally I think atheism can't have any values because it itself is a "lack of belief", so atheism by itself is simply the lack of something, even still it's still about perspective, a lack of something can still be seen as an addition of something else.
My question is, are there any atheistic values based on say science or reason? If yes, what are they? If no, suppose you could make certain values atheistic values then what would those be?
Can you list these christian values please? Values that are exclusively christian and contain no science or reason?
Atheism(ists) has a lack of belief in one thing. I think you know what that is.
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RE: Is there any "atheist values" like "Christian values"?
January 6, 2018 at 10:50 pm
(This post was last modified: January 6, 2018 at 10:56 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
http://www.christianbiblereference.org/f...Values.htm
1. Worship only God
2. Respect all people
3. Be humble
4. Be honest
5. Live a moral life
6. Be generous
7. Don't be self righteous
8. Don't be a hypocrite
9. Don't hold grudges
10. Forgive others
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Is there any "atheist values" like "Christian values"?
January 6, 2018 at 10:52 pm
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Atheist values list (in no particular order):
1. Baby BBQ’s
2. Satan worship
3. Raping and pillaging
4. Angry mobs
5. Setting shit on fire
6. Blood sucking rituals
7. The destruction of human society
Yep, I think that about covers it.
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RE: Is there any "atheist values" like "Christian values"?
January 6, 2018 at 10:53 pm
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(January 6, 2018 at 10:46 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I still keep wondering what these alleged xtian values are that the US was founded on.
Other than kill the Indians and steal their land, I can't think of any.
Mammon is responsible for quite a bit of the Christian value system, at least for those individuals overseeing the enterprise.
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RE: Is there any "atheist values" like "Christian values"?
January 6, 2018 at 10:55 pm
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(January 6, 2018 at 10:50 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: http://www.christianbiblereference.org/f...Values.htm
I see only one that is possibly exclusively christian. Non Christians, but religious, could also hold that one value.
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RE: Is there any "atheist values" like "Christian values"?
January 6, 2018 at 10:56 pm
(January 6, 2018 at 10:47 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: (January 6, 2018 at 10:23 pm)pool the matey Wrote: One of the great things I feel like there is with Christianity is there are "Christian values", you absolutely have to align your values with these. Personally I think atheism can't have any values because it itself is a "lack of belief", so atheism by itself is simply the lack of something, even still it's still about perspective, a lack of something can still be seen as an addition of something else.
My question is, are there any atheistic values based on say science or reason? If yes, what are they? If no, suppose you could make certain values atheistic values then what would those be?
Can you list these christian values please? Values that are exclusively christian and contain no science or reason?
Atheism(ists) has a lack of belief in one thing. I think you know what that is.
Let me have a go at this, I'm practically bible illiterate.
1) Don't blaspheme the xtian god.
2) Honor your parents.
3) Never cross the streams.
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RE: Is there any "atheist values" like "Christian values"?
January 6, 2018 at 10:57 pm
(January 6, 2018 at 10:55 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: (January 6, 2018 at 10:50 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: http://www.christianbiblereference.org/f...Values.htm
I see only one that is possibly exclusively christian. Non christians could also hold that one value.
Yes, because basic human decency is universal. (Not to get into objective morality or anything lol)
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RE: Is there any "atheist values" like "Christian values"?
January 6, 2018 at 10:59 pm
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Don't believe it, I actually thought of a fourth:
4) When defending the xtian god on unholy websites always knock the pieces over and strut all over the board leaving shit everywhere before loudly declaring your victory in God's holy name.
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RE: Is there any "atheist values" like "Christian values"?
January 6, 2018 at 10:59 pm
(January 6, 2018 at 10:56 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Let me have a go at this, I'm practically bible illiterate.
1) Don't blaspheme the xtian god.
2) Honor your parents.
3) Never cross the streams.
How did I do?
You must be tired.
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RE: Is there any "atheist values" like "Christian values"?
January 6, 2018 at 11:01 pm
(January 6, 2018 at 10:50 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: http://www.christianbiblereference.org/f...Values.htm
1. Worship only God
2. Respect all people
3. Be humble
4. Be honest
5. Live a moral life
6. Be generous
7. Don't be self righteous
8. Don't be a hypocrite
9. Don't hold grudges
10. Forgive others
None of which are exclusively Christian. In fact, any of them - bar #1 - could apply to atheists as well, and all of them could apply to people of any faith.
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