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Just speculation at this point but.....
#31
RE: Just speculation at this point but.....
(January 8, 2018 at 2:29 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Yes there is.

1. She is smart.

2. She did not get her money handed to her like Trump.

3. MICHELLE AND BARRACK WOULD SUPPORT HER IF NOMINATED.

Is Oprah my first pick? No, but the two biggest reasons to vote blue no matter who.

1. SCOTUS...

2. Trump

I don't want to see this bullshit I am seeing right now in this thread give 45 8 years.

Brian, I don't have anything against Oprah. But being smart, not having money handed to you and being backed by the Obama's are not reasons to vote for someone, to me.
It's not about any of that. If Neil deGrasse Tyson were to run for president, I would have my reservations as well.
He's really smart. He's not a spoiled brat. He might get support from the Obama's.
But would he be a good president for your country? I don't see why he would be.

Quick addition (edit): Don't get me wrong, being smart is important. But there are a shitload of smart people out there. And a shitload who are smart in different ways. And while I hope the US president will be smart, it is not enough to be smart to vote for someone.
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#32
RE: Just speculation at this point but.....
How about Joe Biden?

Democrats need to think with a winning mentality and stop being puritists if we’re going to take the house back. I was all for Bernie, but once he lost I voted Clinton. Angry Democrats refusing to vote when Bernie lost, or voting for the least likely candidate cost us the election and now we’re stuck with a clown for POTUS. I wonder if these folks still feel that Trump and Hillary are the same. We need a serious and competent candidate and we need to vote to win. To win! No candidate will be 100% pure.

Frankly, I don’t see how Oprah makes a good candidate. What experience does she have? I’d prefer Biden, Warren, Michelle, or Bernie. I’ll vote for the one that is best fit and most likely to succeed. Right now is not a time for division. Our country is failing and we are embarrassing ourselves. These are desperate times.
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#33
RE: Just speculation at this point but.....
(January 8, 2018 at 8:30 am)Brian37 Wrote: Oprah's good points, is that she speaks well, and she is a great business woman obviously. Not sure how 45 could get away with the childish name calling he does with anyone else. 

To balance that out she is the single biggest impediment to the advancement of womens' causes in the USA today, what with her constant shilling of the fad woo on the market and endorsement of such "luminaries" as "Dr" Oz.

Yes, she'd be better than the orange fucktard ye have now, but a shit on a stick would still out perform her.
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RE: Just speculation at this point but.....
(January 8, 2018 at 3:39 pm)Mr.Obvious Wrote:
(January 8, 2018 at 2:29 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Yes there is.

1. She is smart.

2. She did not get her money handed to her like Trump.

3. MICHELLE AND BARRACK WOULD SUPPORT HER IF NOMINATED.

Is Oprah my first pick? No, but the two biggest reasons to vote blue no matter who.

1. SCOTUS...

2. Trump

I don't want to see this bullshit I am seeing right now in this thread give 45 8 years.

Brian, I don't have anything against Oprah. But being smart, not having money handed to you and being backed by the Obama's are not reasons to vote for someone, to me.
It's not about any of that. If Neil deGrasse Tyson were to run for president, I would have my reservations as well.
He's really smart. He's not a spoiled brat. He might get support from the Obama's.
But would he be a good president for your country? I don't see why he would be.

Quick addition (edit): Don't get me wrong, being smart is important. But there are a shitload of smart people out there. And a shitload who are smart in different ways. And while I hope the US president will be smart, it is not enough to be smart to vote for someone.


Again, Mr. Obvious nailing the obvious points.  

By this standard, the obvious VP is Beyonce.  She's smart, Obama likes her, wasn't handed money.  Maybe Ellen Degenerous as Sec of State?
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RE: Just speculation at this point but.....
(January 8, 2018 at 11:27 am)wallym Wrote: There's a skyscraper in the middle of NYC Trump built with his name on the front of it.

Trump didn't build it. A combination of undocumented and overworked foreigners built it, and a combination of graft and political idiocy allowed the plans to go through.

If you ever looked into what Trump tower is and what it replaced, you'd know it was a monstrosity that should never have been allowed.
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#36
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Oprah? Lol. We haven't learned to not elect tv celebrities yet. Oprah isn't qualified to give most of the advice she even gives, is a holistic medicine wacko and Jesus freak to boot.
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#37
RE: Just speculation at this point but.....
I don't see this as a positive trend. Leadership by celebrity as opposed to leadership by ability/policy.

This will lead to bad things.

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"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#38
RE: Just speculation at this point but.....
(January 8, 2018 at 3:39 pm)Mr.Obvious Wrote:
(January 8, 2018 at 2:29 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Yes there is.

1. She is smart.

2. She did not get her money handed to her like Trump.

3. MICHELLE AND BARRACK WOULD SUPPORT HER IF NOMINATED.

Is Oprah my first pick? No, but the two biggest reasons to vote blue no matter who.

1. SCOTUS...

2. Trump

I don't want to see this bullshit I am seeing right now in this thread give 45 8 years.

Brian, I don't have anything against Oprah. But being smart, not having money handed to you and being backed by the Obama's are not reasons to vote for someone, to me.
It's not about any of that. If Neil deGrasse Tyson were to run for president, I would have my reservations as well.
He's really smart. He's not a spoiled brat. He might get support from the Obama's.
But would he be a good president for your country? I don't see why he would be.

Quick addition (edit): Don't get me wrong, being smart is important. But there are a shitload of smart people out there. And a shitload who are smart in different ways. And while I hope the US president will be smart, it is not enough to be smart to vote for someone.

Ugggg.....

It seems that even liberals want it the same way as conservatives.

We all want somebody new, and with experience at the same time.

If we don't want career politicians that would require new blood. And Obama ONLY had 3 years before he ran. McConnell sucked the dick of Andrew Jackson.

It amounts to picking your battles.
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#39
RE: Just speculation at this point but.....
(January 8, 2018 at 6:37 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(January 8, 2018 at 3:39 pm)Mr.Obvious Wrote: Brian, I don't have anything against Oprah. But being smart, not having money handed to you and being backed by the Obama's are not reasons to vote for someone, to me.
It's not about any of that. If Neil deGrasse Tyson were to run for president, I would have my reservations as well.
He's really smart. He's not a spoiled brat. He might get support from the Obama's.
But would he be a good president for your country? I don't see why he would be.

Quick addition (edit): Don't get me wrong, being smart is important. But there are a shitload of smart people out there. And a shitload who are smart in different ways. And while I hope the US president will be smart, it is not enough to be smart to vote for someone.

Ugggg.....

It seems that even liberals want it the same way as conservatives.

We all want somebody new, and with experience at the same time.

If we don't want career politicians that would require new blood. And Obama ONLY had 3 years before he ran. McConnell sucked the dick of Andrew Jackson.

It amounts to picking your battles.

Well, I'm not exactly a liberal... but that aside.
Maybe I'm looking at things more from the POV from my upbringing and my country as opposed to America.
But even you agreed she wouldn't be your first pick. If your goal is going to be 'Defeating Trump' rather than 'trying to elect the person you find most qualified', that's of course your call. I just think you're losing something important in the process.
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RE: Just speculation at this point but.....
(January 8, 2018 at 6:37 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(January 8, 2018 at 3:39 pm)Mr.Obvious Wrote: Brian, I don't have anything against Oprah. But being smart, not having money handed to you and being backed by the Obama's are not reasons to vote for someone, to me.
It's not about any of that. If Neil deGrasse Tyson were to run for president, I would have my reservations as well.
He's really smart. He's not a spoiled brat. He might get support from the Obama's.
But would he be a good president for your country? I don't see why he would be.

Quick addition (edit): Don't get me wrong, being smart is important. But there are a shitload of smart people out there. And a shitload who are smart in different ways. And while I hope the US president will be smart, it is not enough to be smart to vote for someone.

Ugggg.....

It seems that even liberals want it the same way as conservatives.

We all want somebody new, and with experience at the same time.

If we don't want career politicians that would require new blood. And Obama ONLY had 3 years before he ran. McConnell sucked the dick of Andrew Jackson.

It amounts to picking your battles.

Obama had a law degree and was involved in state politics pretty much his whole adult life before being a senator.

McConnell is as experienced as his Turkey neck is frightening, but you just don't like him because he's a Republican and you don't like any of them.
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