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Just speculation at this point but.....
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#43
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The candidate needs his/her own message and the party needs to support the nominee with the party platform. Of course the candidates should all be in agreement with the party's historical values. The nominee must be able to sell his/her vision to the critical voting block.
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(January 8, 2018 at 6:37 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(January 8, 2018 at 3:39 pm)Mr.Obvious Wrote: Brian, I don't have anything against Oprah. But being smart, not having money handed to you and being backed by the Obama's are not reasons to vote for someone, to me.
It's not about any of that. If Neil deGrasse Tyson were to run for president, I would have my reservations as well.
He's really smart. He's not a spoiled brat. He might get support from the Obama's.
But would he be a good president for your country? I don't see why he would be.

Quick addition (edit): Don't get me wrong, being smart is important. But there are a shitload of smart people out there. And a shitload who are smart in different ways. And while I hope the US president will be smart, it is not enough to be smart to vote for someone.

Ugggg.....

It seems that even liberals want it the same way as conservatives.

We all want somebody new, and with experience at the same time.

If we don't want career politicians that would require new blood. And Obama ONLY had 3 years before he ran. McConnell sucked the dick of Andrew Jackson.

It amounts to picking your battles.

Face facts Brian, Oprahs policies wouldn't stray far from typical hard right policies, apart from increased support for woo cures to health problems.

As a woman totally dependant on the current system, Oprah's not going to bite the corporate hand that feeds her.
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(January 9, 2018 at 3:31 am)Wololo Wrote:
(January 8, 2018 at 6:37 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Ugggg.....

It seems that even liberals want it the same way as conservatives.

We all want somebody new, and with experience at the same time.

If we don't want career politicians that would require new blood. And Obama ONLY had 3 years before he ran. McConnell sucked the dick of Andrew Jackson.

It amounts to picking your battles.

Face facts Brian, Oprahs policies wouldn't stray far from typical hard right policies, apart from increased support for woo cures to health problems.

As a woman totally dependant on the current system, Oprah's not going to bite the corporate hand that feeds her.

I'm sure Oprah is socially liberal, willing to combat climate change, and support health care for all. Aside from political experience, how was Hillary any better?
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(January 9, 2018 at 4:58 am)Grandizer Wrote:
(January 9, 2018 at 3:31 am)Wololo Wrote: Face facts Brian, Oprahs policies wouldn't stray far from typical hard right policies, apart from increased support for woo cures to health problems.

As a woman totally dependant on the current system, Oprah's not going to bite the corporate hand that feeds her.

I'm sure Oprah is socially liberal, willing to combat climate change, and support health care for all. Aside from political experience, how was Hillary any better?

Your question is stupid, equivalent to asking how Valkyrie is a better doctor than Oprah once you leave aside the fact that Oprah has no medical qualifications.

Your asking me to pick the difference between two potential cadidates leaving aside everythinv we know about one which shows that they know what they're doing and are effective at it.

Oh, and from her own show I'm guessing that Oprah is far less liberal or in favour of a public health system than you think. Her favourite snake oil salesmen wouldn't last a day in a public health system and her personal profits would dry up in a liberal society.
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(January 9, 2018 at 5:45 am)Wololo Wrote:
(January 9, 2018 at 4:58 am)Grandizer Wrote: I'm sure Oprah is socially liberal, willing to combat climate change, and support health care for all. Aside from political experience, how was Hillary any better?

Your question is stupid, equivalent to asking how Valkyrie is a better doctor than Oprah once you leave aside the fact that Oprah has no medical qualifications.

Your asking me to pick the difference between two potential cadidates leaving aside everythinv we know about one which shows that they know what they're doing and are effective at it.

Oh, and from her own show I'm guessing that Oprah is far less liberal or in favour of a public health system than you think. Her favourite snake oil salesmen wouldn't last a day in a public health system and her personal profits would dry up in a liberal society.

Jesus fucking Christ, I was addressing the context of your previous response. How was Hillary different from Oprah in terms of policies or being in the hands of corprorations? You're just guessing then that Oprah doesn't stray far from hard right policies.

And of course experience matters, but I put that aside to respond to what you were saying earlier.
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(January 8, 2018 at 10:59 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The candidate needs his/her own message and the party needs to support the nominee with the party platform. Of course the candidates should all be in agreement with the party's historical values. The nominee must be able to sell his/her vision to the critical voting block.
I dunno, Wyrd. As far as democratic hopefuls for 2020 that have been tossed about none of them seem to have a message aside from resisting Trump and the GOP....and as far as the dem party platform, what the hell do they stand for these days? Even Schumer recognized all of that and stated several months ago that the Dems need a message other than resistance. The way the economy and jobs have been picking up the Dems are facing an uphill battle with their resistance message. They need to.make clear what their platform is, keeping jobs and the economy high on the list. They need a moderate candidate who has a message concerning jobs, the economy, trade, foreign policy,...the resistance shit is only going to sink the Democrats.
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RE: Just speculation at this point but.....
(January 9, 2018 at 3:31 am)Wololo Wrote:
(January 8, 2018 at 6:37 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Ugggg.....

It seems that even liberals want it the same way as conservatives.

We all want somebody new, and with experience at the same time.

If we don't want career politicians that would require new blood. And Obama ONLY had 3 years before he ran. McConnell sucked the dick of Andrew Jackson.

It amounts to picking your battles.

Face facts Brian, Oprahs policies wouldn't stray far from typical hard right policies, apart from increased support for woo cures to health problems.

As a woman totally dependant on the current system, Oprah's not going to bite the corporate hand that feeds her.

Bull which is why she backed Obama in both his runs. 

You think every single billionaire is a republican?
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