Wal Mart increases starting wage

[Brian37]

You think "those fucking rich people" are going to move to those shitholes we've been hearing about?  I doubt it.  

Because it doesn't.  It's not as if we hadn't tried it and watched it fail over and over and over.....

"If we don't let them rape and pillage we wont have any of their precious, precious moniez!!!  Double plus ungood!" 

OFC it does, "Money" is for profit and requires labor to produce it.  Even the most exotic financial instrument has a tenous but often lethal connection to that reality.  When the asset the bet is made on becomes toxic - the bet becomes worthless.  Unfortunately, lobbyists have engineered it so that the profits from those bets are privatized even though we socialize the losses.

More fairy tales, and awfully damned cheeky.  Trying to defend extortion by reference to a job you totally had in real estate?   

Yeah, it's called labor and productivity.  Unlike trickle down bullshit it actually works.  It's what the trickle down acolytes exploit to make their products, and to sell their products, and to create the funds they then suck up as corporate handouts.  I feel like it shouldn't be a controversial opinion to suggest that the working masses and the country as a whole not get fucked by corporate overlords or the rich engaging in next level welfare queenism.
-and yet here we are.

I'd figure you'd be onboard..we're basically discussing moneychangers are we not?  The world could use a few more flipped tables.  But if that just doesn't tickle your indignation bone..its fucking unamerican and anti-capitalist.  Capital and markets do not move freely when we allow a tiny fraction of individuals to extort the entire system, and the government is certainly not by the people, of the people, or even -for- the people when it sides with those interests over the interests of it's citizens.  Im not interested in pinko shit -or- a corrupt oligarchy.  

So tell me again why these hookers need to be given more money and concessions to incentivize them..whilst giving money or concessions to the working poor only makes them lazy?

K'den, your the rich fuck taking care of poor people!? They will not send you a fathers day card! You know whom they are, they are your employees! Without them you ain't shit! With out your leadership, they will run around like Wal-Mart employees! With your love they will kick ass! Whom have to put their children through college so that those children can, potentially, be as big a dumbfuck as you and employ more dumbfucks!!! Yeah, that'll work!

I belong to the black letter version of AARP! American Association of Rich People! We don't employ dumbfucks! We are "Keeping America strong and useful"! Because, we are weird and we are not dumbfucks!

Fuck dude! Have you ever tried being fucking weird, rich and actually hire dumbfucks and teach them how to be great? So that they can hire more dumbfucks and teach them how to be great? So on and so on?

It's as easy as God's love! Oh, I forgot--atheists can't employ God's love because there is no God! Sucks to be you!

Remember how you talk about God while knowing you live on an Island European Dominionists stole from polytheists.

And what the fuck do you mean "sucks to be you"?

If you think it sucks to not believe, you are a fool. I live my life fine without sky heros and I don't fear any fictional after life just like I don't fear my non existence before I was born. Your projectionism mundane and underwhelming. 

Being anti monopoly is not a call to end private property or even private business. But in a multi class system, there is a western concept of laws that are supposed to prevent anything from becoming too big, be it one religion, one political party, one class, and that anti monopoly concept applies to the private sector.

If you think  China is not capitalist and does not allow the private sector, next time you buy something at your local Walmart check the damned label. OVER THERE their workers have even LESS RIGHTS and make far less. Is that your idea of competition? Their factory labor gets TREATED LIKE SHIT, and they have entire dorms where workers work 12 to 16 hours a day 6 to 7 days a week. 

That is not raising living standards, that is exploitation. Humans are not the property of the rich. If you think that one class knows what is best for everyone else, move to China and work in one of their factories for a week. You'd be crying for you mommy.

I am nobody's property, and I vote, and I have a voice.

[Amarok]

K'den, your the rich fuck taking care of poor people!?

No I am not rich but I help the poor whenever possible 

They will not send you a fathers day card!

I don't care . I don't expect gratitude for my actions . The actions are reward themselves .

You know whom they are, they are your employees!

They are not my employees . I don't own them .They don't labor for my benefit nor should they . 

Without them you ain't shit!

Employees need businessmen the way the human body needs a ring worm

With out your leadership, they will run around like Wal-Mart employees!

The rich don't lead . They simply take .The working class lead as they should 

With your love they will kick ass!

The rich love there employees the way an plantation owner values his indentured servants 

Whom have to put their children through college

If a nation had a decent education system . The patronage of the rich would not be needed. Education should be a right to all people as through it men are freed from the bondage of ignorance .

so that those children can, potentially, be as big a dumbfuck as you and employ more dumbfucks!!! Yeah, that'll work!

The rich are lucky dumb fucks who achieve because they live in a successful society 

I belong to the black letter version of AARP! American Association of Rich People! We don't employ dumbfucks! We are "Keeping America strong and useful"! Because, we are weird and we are not dumbfucks! 

The delusion is strong in this one 

Fuck dude! Have you ever tried being fucking weird, rich and actually hire dumbfucks and teach them how to be great? So that they can hire more dumbfucks and teach them how to be great? So on and so on?

Yeah this shit be whack y'all 

It's as easy as God's love! Oh, I forgot--atheists can't employ God's love because there is no God! Sucks to be you! 

Your god is an abusive jealous husband .And nothing more .

[The Industrial Atheist]

I don't find this funny at all. And no, who the hell is claiming I can fix the world? I do have a voice and if I can help make the country less lopsided I will use my voice.

No shit family lives together, that is fine, but not every body does. 

"You cant tax the rich otherwise they will leave".


BULLSHIT, we have in our tax code history had far higher tax rates. This blackmail, nothing more. If you expect me to feel sorry for billionaires you are a fool. There is a huge difference between "can't" and "don't want to". The rich CAN afford higher taxes, that is fucking nonsense based on nothing but GREED.

Agreed they won't leave . They never have prior they won't now it's a bluff . They realize even if they won't admit it that living in a first world country is better. Even if they refuse to contribute to it staying that way and prefer the "I got mine fuck everyone else mentality ) Which is ultimately in the broad and long term self destructive to society . And lowers there own prosperity .

Especially if you do what Trump said he would (and never would have in a million years)and Bernie would have actually done. That's tax their goods when they want to bring them back to the huge market in America.

(With respect. I know you're Canadian, not exactly sure how the tax system is there, probably more progressive)

[vulcanlogician]

The rich love there employees the way an plantation owner values his indentured servants.

Some Southerners and South-sympathizers used to try to make the case that slaves were better off under servitude. (John Wilkes Booth made such claims.) I guess rule #1 of exploitation is justify your exploitation.

If a nation had a decent education system . The patronage of the rich would not be needed. Education should be a right to all people as through it men are freed from the bondage of ignorance .

I agree. Education is crucial if you want people to reach their potential. But most people value education inasmuch as it will help one get a "good job." Education is about enrichment of the mind. It's not "job training." People are so short-sighted on this. They don't understand that a workforce of enriched minds is exponentially more capable than an army of well-trained machines.

[Amarok]

Agreed they won't leave . They never have prior they won't now it's a bluff . They realize even if they won't admit it that living in a first world country is better. Even if they refuse to contribute to it staying that way and prefer the "I got mine fuck everyone else mentality ) Which is ultimately in the broad and long term self destructive to society . And lowers there own prosperity .

Especially if you do what Trump said he would (and never would have in a million years)and Bernie would have actually done. That's tax their goods when they want to bring them back to the huge market in America.

(With respect. I know you're Canadian, not exactly sure how the tax system is there, probably more progressive)

Our tax system is kind of a hybrid. We take some cues from our british heritage and tax law . But there are some American elements within it.

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The rich love there employees the way an plantation owner values his indentured servants.

Some Southerners and South-sympathizers used to try to make the case that slaves were better off under servitude. (John Wilkes Booth made such claims.) I guess rule #1 of exploitation is justify your exploitation.

If a nation had a decent education system . The patronage of the rich would not be needed. Education should be a right to all people as through it men are freed from the bondage of ignorance .

I agree. Education is crucial if you want people to reach their potential. But most people value education inasmuch as it will help one get a "good job." Education is about enrichment of the mind. It's not "job training." People are so short-sighted on this. They don't understand that a workforce of enriched minds is exponentially more capable than an army of well-trained machines.

Indeed an enlightened country is far more advanced , safer , cleaner and less violent . And the rate of personnel satisfaction tends to be higher .

[Haipule]

Sorry for my rant. I am a capitalist but not a corporatist(public). Entrepreneurship does not function like the public corporate matrix they teach in school. I am also not very political.
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I don't invest in the stock market. However, I did day trade it and did quite well before I started building houses.  

Sam Walton once said that his biggest mistake was going public.

One thing about being rich is it can be a trap. Nice cars and a million dollar house are expensive. So you end up working your ass off just to keep up. One day you realize that it's just a gilded cage! My wife and I tried to make less money by working less but 2009 we estimated would be 150k+ in just personal income which would have really trapped us into an even bigger mortgage.

So we just quite and walked away from it and traveled the world for 9yrs and spent every penny.

[The Grand Nudger]

1st world problems.  Tell you what though, if you have to much money and it's a total downer...I can take some off your hands.

[Brian37]

Especially if you do what Trump said he would (and never would have in a million years)and Bernie would have actually done. That's tax their goods when they want to bring them back to the huge market in America.

(With respect. I know you're Canadian, not exactly sure how the tax system is there, probably more progressive)

Our tax system is kind of a hybrid. We take some cues from our british heritage and tax law . But there are some American elements within it.

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Some Southerners and South-sympathizers used to try to make the case that slaves were better off under servitude. (John Wilkes Booth made such claims.) I guess rule #1 of exploitation is justify your exploitation.



I agree. Education is crucial if you want people to reach their potential. But most people value education inasmuch as it will help one get a "good job." Education is about enrichment of the mind. It's not "job training." People are so short-sighted on this. They don't understand that a workforce of enriched minds is exponentially more capable than an army of well-trained machines.

Indeed an enlightened country is far more advanced , safer , cleaner and less violent . And the rate of personnel satisfaction tends to be higher .

I wish I could tolerate cold weather, I'd be out of here in a heartbeat.

[Haipule]

1st world problems.  Tell you what though, if you have to much money and it's a total downer...I can take some off your hands.  

Wealth is weird because it sticks to you like glue. Lets say you spent $1M on a McLaren F1 that's now worth $2M. You buy a nice $15K diamond for you wife that's now worth $30K. You buy a nice painting for $100K that is now worth $500K. You buy a house for $12M that is now worth $19M. You just can't get rid of it! The more you spent on nice things the more you make! Like that movie Brewster's Millions.

[Amarok]

Our tax system is kind of a hybrid. We take some cues from our british heritage and tax law . But there are some American elements within it.

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Indeed an enlightened country is far more advanced , safer , cleaner and less violent . And the rate of personnel satisfaction tends to be higher .

I wish I could tolerate cold weather, I'd be out of here in a heartbeat.

Vancouver is pretty warm .( Heck right now there at plus 11 degrees celsius) . Though the rain might be an issue .