How do you become an Atheist?

[Cando]

I saw a lot of people quoting people who were quoting other people who were quoting themselves who were quoting another person. It's very "meta" but I lost track of what was going on. At this point we should probably just see how many quotes within quotes we can get before the system crashes.

I actually hate that too....but the system seems designed to allow it to go on ad infinitum.

That could be interesting.

[downbeatplumb]

I saw a lot of people quoting people who were quoting other people who were quoting themselves who were quoting another person. It's very "meta" but I lost track of what was going on. At this point we should probably just see how many quotes within quotes we can get before the system crashes.

I actually hate that too....but the system seems designed to allow it to go on ad infinitum.

That could be interesting.

I agree

[Cando]

I saw a lot of people quoting people who were quoting other people who were quoting themselves who were quoting another person. It's very "meta" but I lost track of what was going on. At this point we should probably just see how many quotes within quotes we can get before the system crashes.

I actually hate that too....but the system seems designed to allow it to go on ad infinitum.

That could be interesting.

I agree

That makes me happy.

[leo-rcc]

[theVOID]

Interesting stance, generally science is closely tied to philosophy throughout human history, and they both operate off of logic structures, I would like to know more about how you see this. In any case, The Void certainly seems to like philosophy enough for the both of you!

Lots of good input and even a debate about philosophy, good stuff. Thanks everybody!

Only recently (like in the last 9 months), before that I had a much more lukewarm attitude to Philosophy, now that i've been studying some of it pretty extensively I'm gob-smacked at how much my overall approach has changed, especially the way I think about issues, and the foundation of my world-view has shifted from naturalism to an epistemology, which I think is a much more comprehensive and clear foundation than tentative naturalism, and now in a theist/atheist (or naturalism/supernaturalism)debate I can easily and quickly refute any theistic epistemology and present a true epistemology by which the theist arguments clearly don't qualify as justified, and if a belief is unjustified that is all that needs to be said, the argument is over.

[coffeeveritas]

[Abraham3]

Due to the existence of a plethora of unnecessary suffering.

Due to the monstrous nature of the Christian god.

Due to the naturalistic explanations for - and refutations of - every divine phenomena in the record.

[lrh9]

1) Observation
2) Modeling
3) Testing
4) Analysis
5) Repetitions of 1 to 4 until the model is not falsified.
6) Publishing of the model.
7) Verification.

[Ashendant]

As for the Gospels, do I believe that God just read the finished text of the Gospels off to the writers of the Gospels so they could jot it down word for word? No. Do I believe that Jesus really lived and taught and did pretty much what we see in the Gospels? Absolutely, it makes historical sense too. Do I believe the Gospels could have been inspired by the Holy Spirit? Sure thing, it doesn’t mean they were possessed when they were writing, just that the Spirit guided them to write the right things. Of course they were still human, and their own experience and style will show through the text, but the end result is a book that shows me how to live and understand the universe.

I don't want to be rude and all, but please read Ezekiel 23:19 and tell me what part of that is scientificly possible...

[downbeatplumb]

[quote='Strongbad' pid='105200' dateline='1289612318']

So my basic approach to everything is: always seek the truth in its most complete form and hold all views equal until proven otherwise

So you hold all these views as being equal:

Islam, mormonism, scientology, hinduism, budhism, fairies, angels, gnomes, judaism,christianity and that england will win the next world cup.

As for christianity every time a central tennet is proven incorrect the goal posts are moved.

This has happened time and again.

From the trial of galileo to Darwin to Suppression of facts about ancient egypt.

Min or Chatpilot could come up with many more.

My point, all views are NOT equal, facts should be the basis of belief, not just having a feeling that there should be something more.