Evolution

[I_am_not_mafia]

 Do you have another possibility for abiogenesis? I only know of two, intelligent design or happenstance.

Self-organisation.

Up to date research on abiogenesis has many hypothesis on the beginning of life. Which of these do you prefer? However they are all based on happenstance.

None of them are based on 'happenstance'.

[The Grand Nudger]

God is the epitome of intelligence. What is surprising is that anyone could possibly believe that the human body came into existence by any other means than intelligent design.

Were you intelligently designed? I mean you, personally. Did god form you from the mud and breath life into your nostrils? I ask..because, if not, then -you- are a demonstration of a human body "coming into existence" by means other than intelligent design.

Were you "happenstance", then, on account of common biology being the explanation for your body? Or perhaps your mother tripped and fell..landed on your dads knob? Double happenstance.

[downbeatplumb]

Intelligent design? No. 'God did it' is not a theory.

A theory can be anything.
But once you make a theory the truth...then ! ?

A theory in the scientific meaning cannot be "anything".

Scientific theory definition

A [b]scientific[/b] [b]theory[/b] is an explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can, in accordance with the [b]scientific[/b] method, be repeatedly tested, using a predefined protocol of observations and experiments. Established [b]scientific[/b] [b]theories[/b] have withstood rigorous scrutiny and are a comprehensive form of [b]scientific[/b] knowledge.

[Little Rik]

I believe that intelligence has always existed and that our bodies were intellectually designed.

Tooth decay, renal failure, harlequin foetus syndrome, cancers too numerous to list, eyes in backwards, haemophilia, Larsen syndrome, mircocephaly, spina bifida, congenital syphilis, cri du chat, Huntington's chorea, lissencephaly and on and on and on.

So, tell me - where does the 'intelligence' come in?
Boru

This post should really end up in the AF Hall of fame for his total stupidity.  

In the beginning there were huge forests, clean air, clean water, no diseases no famine and no wars but now we have disaster after disaster.
Did God cut the forests or pollute the planet or engage sex with animals to create new diseases?
God didn't while fool humans did so why blame God?

I bet you had wild mushrooms for dinner Brian, did you?  

[Homeless Nutter]

[...]Did God cut the forests or pollute the planet or engage sex with animals to create new diseases?[...]

No, that was your mom...

[Little Rik]

I think they have a magical story to explain the difference between the first magical story and what we observe. Something to do with the creator vandalizing his creation because they ate some naughty fruit.

Oh, I expect little Rik will say it's punishment for not getting enough Karma Points on your last try.

Actually LR does not believe in either magic or religions but of course your fantasy can make you believe anything you like.  
LR rather believe in that science that contradict atheists time and time again.  

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Your stupidity has no limits yog.  

First of all you only present one point among those who I already knock down in the previous post.
Wonder why you keep silent about those.  

I did mention those.  They were irrelevant quibbles like I said.  

Generally speaking reincarnation is necessary only in case when the karma is still present or when a parallelism with God has not been achieved yet.
But even there some of those who had an NDEs and could stay with God come back not because they still had some karma but for other reason like a mother that feel sad to leave her little kids alone so let us not generalize and see case by case.  

Your worthless speculation is noted.  Try addressing the point, dickwad.  None of this is evidence of reincarnation.  And here you've introduced some God character.  Where's your evidence for God?  You can't just assert his existence.  Assertions like that are just as easily dismissed.  And now you've introduced yet another bullshit religious notion, karma.  Where's the evidence for karma?  You don't demonstrate one unjustified claim by making more unjustified claims.  You don't have evidence for shit, and the only way your babblings make any sense is if we charitably give you additional things you can't demonstrate.  Well fuck that.  Demonstrate God, karma, and reincarnation.  You're going backwards, not forwards, piling on additional bullshit that you can't demonstrate.

Science teach us that to reach a goal we got to go through a lot of hard work.
If you need to get a degree in something you got to go through primary, high school, other teachings, uni and so on.
Human evolution run in the same way.
One life is not enough to reach the goal of life that is why reincarnation is needed.

More bullshit.  It's generally assumed that achieving a goal requires work.  What isn't assumed is that "evolution run in the same way."  That's just another worthless bare assertion on your part.  It's not evidence.  It's just shit you pulled from your ass.  It doesn't demonstrate squat.

This is science yog.
The very science that atheists glorify all the time.
The funny thing is that science contradict atheists all the time so atheists are left with an empty fist and a lot of fantasies.    

No, that wasn't science, it was more of your unevidenced fantasies.  It's garbage and has nothing to do with science.  

Obviousy NDEs in most cases entails reincarnation.

Obviously....   Not!  This is what you're supposed to be demonstrating, not simply asserting.  Again you fail at the most basic of tasks.

Why then God would send these people back?
If these people would be ready to be with God right then then God would not send them back.
It is like in this physical-material life that if you still have some work to do you are not ready to get your degree.

Who the fuck is "God" and what evidence do you have that he/she/it exists?  You don't demonstrate one thing without evidence by simply asserting something else that is equally without evidence.  Even IF I were to accept the existence of this "God," this is nothing more than baseless speculation.  You were asked to show that NDEs necessarily entail reincarnation.  Your masturbatory fantasies about what some "God" would do are thoroughly worthless.  They don't demonstrate shit.  All we have is your worthless assertion that it is "like" that.  Two can play that game.  I assert that it is NOT like that.  Now, where's your evidence that it is "like" that? It's like you don't have a fucking clue what it takes to demonstrate reincarnation.  Given that, I can only assume you swallowed the idea without any such demonstration.  You wanted to believe the dogma, so you did.  It is "like" you don't know fuckall about reincarnation and are just running off at the mouth without proving anything.

I bet you never though of that yog, did you?  

That I never thought about the fact that you're a worthless twat who doesn't have the first clue how to make a coherent case for his beliefs?  Yeah, I knew that.  Like usual, you talk and talk but it's all empty assertions and bullshit analogies that you can't substantiate.

Try again, fucktard.  Your last post was a total waste.

I never finish to wonder how stupid can you be yog.

Atheists are there all the time to glorify physical science but physical science say that for every action there got to be and equal and opposite reaction.
This is karma in action.
Karma goes hand in hand with this science that of course contradict atheists 100% and if there is karma obviously there is someone who run this karma.
Guess who is He.  

Fail once again yog.

[The Grand Nudger]

I thought that karma was the thing that raped you for kicking x amount of dogs?  That seems distinct from the x that makes a ball roll forward when kicked.

So....what is it that karma does, anyway, if it requires someone to "run" it..and what does that entail? Is there alot of dog math involved?

[Little Rik]

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I guess more filth is coming out from the sick mouth of this sick subhuman.  

[The Grand Nudger]

Ah, the karmicly enlightened guru of AF deigns to share his opinion on subhumans? Subhumans, for reference..are what..people who disagree with you and have potty mouths? That seems like it might dragnet quite a few people into the category.

[chimp3]

Did you know that LR believes a little girl being raped is a form of justice for something she did in a previous life?