It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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Fear of hell, advice please
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(March 5, 2018 at 2:51 am)orthodox-man Wrote:(March 5, 2018 at 1:53 am)Succubus Wrote: Are you in any capacity affiliated with the website you quoted above? Here is one consistency your are missing. They are all personal opinions from delusional people in a delusional state of mind. There will always be some consistencies when common religious beliefs fire their delusion. RE: Fear of hell, advice please
March 6, 2018 at 8:00 pm
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(March 6, 2018 at 8:00 pm)orthodox-man Wrote: but why do Christians have such vivid and detailed delusions while others don't? Shouldn't Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists all have NDEs with lengthy and lucid discussions with their deities? Other than youtube what research have carried out into this phenomenon?
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
RE: Fear of hell, advice please
March 6, 2018 at 8:24 pm
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(March 6, 2018 at 8:00 pm)orthodox-man Wrote:(March 6, 2018 at 6:36 pm)Succubus Wrote: If random youtube videos reinforce your belief in Christianity then that's a very low bar you've set for yourself. Do you believe a cat can play the piano? Sincerity doesn't automatically mean truth. And, again, Christians may have more vivid and detailed delusions partly because a whole lot of them are situated in first-world countries and/or hail from cultures that promote individualism (as opposed to collectivism). It also seems like Muslims have to stay quiet about whatever visions about Muhammad they may see, lest they be punished/ostracized or something. So many ways to explain the phenomena you see without ever having to appeal to the supernatural. We're a very interesting bunch of animals, with lots of biases and distorted thinking, and a study in psychology would help to clarify that even more. Also, do read up on "confirmation bias" and make sure you're not falling victim to that. (March 6, 2018 at 8:00 pm)orthodox-man Wrote:(March 6, 2018 at 6:36 pm)Succubus Wrote: If random youtube videos reinforce your belief in Christianity then that's a very low bar you've set for yourself. Do you believe a cat can play the piano?
So the guy really believes he met Jesus.
If he said he really met Elvis Presley in a bar last week would you believe him then? Assuming he was genuine, I mean. Or would you assume him a liar?
The whole tone of Church teaching in regard to woman is, to the last degree, contemptuous and degrading. - Elizabeth Cady Stanton
(March 6, 2018 at 8:48 pm)Cecelia Wrote: So the guy really believes he met Jesus. If he was genuine, I would believe he believes it, whether or not it is true is a different story. The only thing is assuming it was a hallucination, can hallucinations be altered by thoughts during a hallucination? For example, if I am hallucinating a bright light and I think about Jesus, or assume that light is Jesus, could I actually hallucinate seeing man's face who says he is Jesus? I was thinking maybe that is why Christians report seeing Jesus, they have him on par with God, some say he is God. Therefore, could it be they see a light, think "gee that light must be Jesus" and then they start feeling that they are talking to him? I know Muslims only think of Muhammad as a prophet and not on par with Allah, so if a Christian and a Muslim both see light at the end of a tunnel, the Christian is more likely to interpret it as Christ than a Muslim seeing it as Muhammad. Getting beside myself here, but I guess the main question is, can thoughts and ideas shape and or change a hallucination while it is going on? RE: Fear of hell, advice please
March 6, 2018 at 9:53 pm
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(March 6, 2018 at 9:10 pm)orthodox-man Wrote:(March 6, 2018 at 8:48 pm)Cecelia Wrote: So the guy really believes he met Jesus. You've just undermined your own argument!
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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