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Fear of letting go?
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Fear of letting go?
Hello, I've been looking for a place to discuss my thoughts again I've never gone to church's as an adult or anything i'm not devoted to anything i basically told everyone i didn't believe as a child and as a teenager. But for a while iv'e had a fear of "Hell" that's always succeeded to scare the crap out of me even though this has been rehashed and debunked over and over again but iv'e not had that problem for a while because i'm not focused on it and i believe it's just some kind of mental thing i have to learn to get over it. What iv'e recently been struggling with is actually entirely different i'm getting to the point where i want to let go of the idea of "Spirituality" as in the supernatural and that's something i'd never thought i'd find myself admitting or saying. I realize this is silly but i'm scared of letting go and there being "Nothing" if that makes sense? any advice or help with this fear would be great. 
Iv'e been trying to convince myself that nothings not the end but it sorta is, and isn't....i don't want to see myself as dust to be honest....i'm supposed to be comforted by this yet i'm not. I'm more angry i can't get over this as quickly as i'd prefer because i feel it's been long enough and i'm going in a repeated cycle brake out of the fear of hell? jump into the fear of letting go and realizing the end is truly the end that should be motivating right?  Now i'm rambling and i'll let people reply or not reply.
(I'm sorry for my bad grammar and spelling)
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RE: Fear of letting go?
What kind of spiritual things are you trying to let go of?
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RE: Fear of letting go?
(May 31, 2019 at 3:20 am)Losty Wrote: What kind of spiritual things are you trying to let go of?

Belief in the supernatural/spirits ect but not heaven or hell 
I still don't know what i feel on this or letting this go, but id say it's improvement i'm ready to look into it.
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RE: Fear of letting go?
How long have you been an atheist? It can be hard to let go of all your feelers at once, mine just kind of faded away on their own. It's hard to imagine now why they ever worried me.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: Fear of letting go?
(May 31, 2019 at 2:40 am)TristanJ Wrote: Hello, I've been looking for a place to discuss my thoughts again I've never gone to church's as an adult or anything i'm not devoted to anything i basically told everyone i didn't believe as a child and as a teenager. But for a while iv'e had a fear of "Hell" that's always succeeded to scare the crap out of me even though this has been rehashed and debunked over and over again but iv'e not had that problem for a while because i'm not focused on it and i believe it's just some kind of mental thing i have to learn to get over it. What iv'e recently been struggling with is actually entirely different i'm getting to the point where i want to let go of the idea of "Spirituality" as in the supernatural and that's something i'd never thought i'd find myself admitting or saying. I realize this is silly but i'm scared of letting go and there being "Nothing" if that makes sense? any advice or help with this fear would be great. 
Iv'e been trying to convince myself that nothings not the end but it sorta is, and isn't....i don't want to see myself as dust to be honest....i'm supposed to be comforted by this yet i'm not. I'm more angry i can't get over this as quickly as i'd prefer because i feel it's been long enough and i'm going in a repeated cycle brake out of the fear of hell? jump into the fear of letting go and realizing the end is truly the end that should be motivating right?  Now i'm rambling and i'll let people reply or not reply.
(I'm sorry for my bad grammar and spelling)

I fear death too, but I don't fear not existing. I also was not around 4 billion years ago.

You don't need a fictional forever to be motivated to live. Think about mundane things in your life you do that also you know end.

You go to a movie knowing it ends, but you still go and enjoy it. You go to a music concert knowing it plays a last song, but you still go and enjoy it. You go to a sporting event knowing one team will win, one will lose, and you still go and enjoy it. You read a good book knowing it has a last page, but you still read it. You get a pet cat or pet dog, you enjoy them, but you live longer, and even after they die, you might get another one and enjoy that one too.

Saying that life ends does not have to make you depressed nor is it fatalistic or pessimistic to accept that reality. What you have now is important, and life while you are alive is what you make it, not what others say you have to believe or do.

You can still feel love, you will still have some pain, but you wont be tortured for eternity by anything.

I fear prolonged pain, I fear my loved ones missing me. But again, I have no fear of fictional punishment anymore than I fear life before I was born.

I still see lots of good in life. I still have family and friends I love. I simply do not assign anything good or bad that might happen in life to old mythology.
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RE: Fear of letting go?
Go look up all the histories of hell, and then you will realize that they are the products of ignorant, fevered imaginations. That'll help you deprogram yourself from that fear.
I never thought I'd live long enough to become a grumpy old bastard. Here I am, killing it!
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RE: Fear of letting go?
(May 31, 2019 at 3:22 am)TristanJ Wrote:
(May 31, 2019 at 3:20 am)Losty Wrote: What kind of spiritual things are you trying to let go of?

Belief in the supernatural/spirits ect but not heaven or hell 
I still don't know what i feel on this or letting this go, but id say it's improvement i'm ready to look into it.

Why do you feel compelled to let those beliefs go? Why is it important to you?
Memento Mori
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RE: Fear of letting go?
(May 31, 2019 at 2:40 am)TristanJ Wrote: . But for a while iv'e had a fear of "Hell" that's always succeeded to scare the crap out of me

Really? You're afraid of this?!!




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RE: Fear of letting go?
(May 31, 2019 at 9:26 am)Fireball Wrote: Go look up all the histories of hell, and then you will realize that they are the products of ignorant, fevered imaginations. That'll help you deprogram yourself from that fear.

I couldn't agree more. The three religions of Abraham, Jewish, Christian and Islam, were not the first religions to come up with punishment/reward motifs for an afterlife. Polytheism has far older motifs than those.

And even Hindus and Buddhists have their own afterlife superstitions too. 

In Hinduism and Buddhism, "hell" is replaced with the reward punishment motif of reincarnation. If you are good, you become a higher form of life in the next life. If you are bad you become a lower form of life in the next life. And both Buddhists and Hindus also have their brands of ancestor worship as well.
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RE: Fear of letting go?
(May 31, 2019 at 9:24 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(May 31, 2019 at 2:40 am)TristanJ Wrote: Hello, I've been looking for a place to discuss my thoughts again I've never gone to church's as an adult or anything i'm not devoted to anything i basically told everyone i didn't believe as a child and as a teenager. But for a while iv'e had a fear of "Hell" that's always succeeded to scare the crap out of me even though this has been rehashed and debunked over and over again but iv'e not had that problem for a while because i'm not focused on it and i believe it's just some kind of mental thing i have to learn to get over it. What iv'e recently been struggling with is actually entirely different i'm getting to the point where i want to let go of the idea of "Spirituality" as in the supernatural and that's something i'd never thought i'd find myself admitting or saying. I realize this is silly but i'm scared of letting go and there being "Nothing" if that makes sense? any advice or help with this fear would be great. 
Iv'e been trying to convince myself that nothings not the end but it sorta is, and isn't....i don't want to see myself as dust to be honest....i'm supposed to be comforted by this yet i'm not. I'm more angry i can't get over this as quickly as i'd prefer because i feel it's been long enough and i'm going in a repeated cycle brake out of the fear of hell? jump into the fear of letting go and realizing the end is truly the end that should be motivating right?  Now i'm rambling and i'll let people reply or not reply.
(I'm sorry for my bad grammar and spelling)

I fear death too, but I don't fear not existing. I also was not around 4 billion years ago.

You don't need a fictional forever to be motivated to live. Think about mundane things in your life you do that also you know end.

You go to a movie knowing it ends, but you still go and enjoy it. You go to a music concert knowing it plays a last song, but you still go and enjoy it. You go to a sporting event knowing one team will win, one will lose, and you still go and enjoy it. You read a good book knowing it has a last page, but you still read it. You get a pet cat or pet dog, you enjoy them, but you live longer, and even after they die, you might get another one and enjoy that one too.

Saying that life ends does not have to make you depressed nor is it fatalistic or pessimistic to accept that reality. What you have now is important, and life while you are alive is what you make it, not what others say you have to believe or do.

You can still feel love, you will still have some pain, but you wont be tortured for eternity by anything.

I fear prolonged pain, I fear my loved ones missing me. But again, I have no fear of fictional punishment anymore than I fear life before I was born.

I still see lots of good in life. I still have family and friends I love. I simply do not assign anything good or bad that might happen in life to old mythology.
True, good points

(May 31, 2019 at 9:26 am)Fireball Wrote: Go look up all the histories of hell, and then you will realize that they are the products of ignorant, fevered imaginations. That'll help you deprogram yourself from that fear.

Iv'e not looked up the history's of hell or the bible because i'd rather waste my day reading psychology or something useful even though it wouldn't harm me to look into it 
I've watched a lot of things and i'm not sure the fear of hell is my biggest concern anymore or that it'll be solved because i think it's a very irrational fear?

(May 31, 2019 at 9:44 am)Aegon Wrote:
(May 31, 2019 at 3:22 am)TristanJ Wrote: Belief in the supernatural/spirits ect but not heaven or hell 
I still don't know what i feel on this or letting this go, but id say it's improvement i'm ready to look into it.

Why do you feel compelled to let those beliefs go? Why is it important to you?
I want to understand psychology and our minds and i can't understand how our minds fully work if i'm also not willing to let go 
also even if i end up wrong, does it matter? what matters is i remained open minded. Hopefully. 
I can't help others if i can't learn to help myself that's what motivates me i also almost died not long ago in a really stupid way, but stupid or not its made me reflect on what's important, on what's the "here and now" instead of the "What could be" i always have reflected on this but iv'e been doing it more.
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