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RE: Why don't some people understand lack of belief?
April 3, 2018 at 12:18 pm
(April 2, 2018 at 10:14 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (April 2, 2018 at 9:30 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: Right here. I do not believe in any god(s). However, I do not claim no god(s) exist. My position on individual gods (Zues, Apollo, YWVH, etc...) will vary depending on the claims. I most certainly believe that most of the named, defined gods of human history do not exist. Some nebulous god that kick started the universe? Who the fuck knows. Gods who answer prayers and intervene in the lives of mere mortals? Nope, don't buy that shit for a second.
But when talking about "God" (like the OP did), most people will assume you're referring to THE God. The one that the vast majority of people in the 21st century believe in. And you've already said you have disbelief in that God lol. So that's what people are going to think of, and that's what people mean when they get the impression that atheists have disbelief in God, rather than just not believing or disbelieving.
I cannot be held accountable for the assumptions others make. If they choose to think that I believe no gods exist without troubling themselves to find out what I actually believe, that is on them.
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RE: Why don't some people understand lack of belief?
April 3, 2018 at 12:34 pm
Cabbages lack belief in God. Ergo, cabbages are atheists.
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RE: Why don't some people understand lack of belief?
April 3, 2018 at 2:09 pm
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(April 3, 2018 at 3:16 am)robvalue Wrote: on a personal fantasy note, I do in fact have an overwhelming, painful desire to live in a reality that I have full control over. But short of that, I find the idea of existing forever to be horrifying. I know I'm highly abnormal though.
Me too. But after a short while I'd get bored and want to increase the difficulty level.
After many thousands of years of that, I'd make things harder and harder. But not too hard. I love a challenge, but nothing unbearable.
Eventually I'd end up with life as it is now 
(April 3, 2018 at 8:17 am)MysticKnight Wrote: More emotional responses of defeat. Makes you guys look irrational.
Lol the fact Neo kudosed this post is perhaps the most embarrassing moment on his history of AF lol.
(April 3, 2018 at 12:34 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Cabbages lack belief in God. Ergo, cabbages are atheists.
If they are, they're not atheists in the same way that any human atheist who is aware of the concept of God are 
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RE: Why don't some people understand lack of belief?
April 3, 2018 at 2:33 pm
(April 3, 2018 at 2:28 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: (April 3, 2018 at 12:19 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: This is the first time I've seen this sentiment here lol. I'm curious to hear your perspective. Why would you prefer God exist?
Well, because I don’t want to ever cease to exist. That notion cripples me. I don’t want to have a ‘last time’ that I’ll ever see my parents, or my husband, or my babies. I’d much rather believe they we’ll all be with each other forever in a loving, safe place after death. I know I’m basically alone in this sentiment here at AF, lol. I’m not at all ashamed to admit it though.
Makes sense!
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RE: Why don't some people understand lack of belief?
April 3, 2018 at 2:42 pm
Quote:Cabbages lack belief in God. Ergo, cabbages are atheists.
And your objection to that is ???
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RE: Why don't some people understand lack of belief?
April 3, 2018 at 2:44 pm
Ergo, I am a cabbage.
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RE: Why don't some people understand lack of belief?
April 3, 2018 at 2:48 pm
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Quote:More emotional responses of defeat. Makes you guys look irrational.
Lol no it's vastly more irrational to deluded yourself we in any way have been defeated . Let alone us display non existent emotions over said purely fictional defeat . Next you'll be saying napoleon won the battle of waterloo
Quote:Lol the fact Neo kudosed this post is perhaps the most embarrassing moment on his history of AF lol.
Why mystics crazy loopy statements are no worst then 99% of the shit that Wooter himself. Remember when he tried "trolling the left " and just made an ass of himself instead .
(April 3, 2018 at 2:44 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Ergo, I am a cabbage. No a cabbage could be an atheist but not all atheists would be a cabbage if this were so.
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RE: Why don't some people understand lack of belief?
April 3, 2018 at 2:51 pm
I dunno..I'm pretty cabbage-y.
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RE: Why don't some people understand lack of belief?
April 3, 2018 at 2:59 pm
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The absence of belief of adult atheists is nothing like the absence of belief of a cabbage. The absence of belief of a cabbage is like the absence of belief of a baby. Neither babies nor cabbages consciously address the God concept, actually think about it, and conclude it is nonsense. They just are nonbelievers by default. I'm an agnostic atheist myself but it irks me when so many people pretend they're like a cabbage or baby in their atheism, when they've clearly thought about God and considered it nonsense. It's not like they don't have an opinion on the improbability of it. Even people who have never believed in God, think about it at some point before considering that it is nonsense. We don't live in a vacuum.
And another pet peeve: It's an absence and not a lack.
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RE: Why don't some people understand lack of belief?
April 3, 2018 at 3:21 pm
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(April 3, 2018 at 12:34 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Cabbages lack belief in God. Ergo, cabbages are atheists.
Cabbages are neither conscience, nor intelligent. That’s the worst analogy ever, lol.
(April 3, 2018 at 2:33 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (April 3, 2018 at 2:28 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Well, because I don’t want to ever cease to exist. That notion cripples me. I don’t want to have a ‘last time’ that I’ll ever see my parents, or my husband, or my babies. I’d much rather believe they we’ll all be with each other forever in a loving, safe place after death. I know I’m basically alone in this sentiment here at AF, lol. I’m not at all ashamed to admit it though.
Makes sense!
Thanks for not calling me a selfish asshole like...some other people. 😉
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