Thought police?

[The Grand Nudger]

For better or worse, you're an exception.

[Shell B]

For better or worse, you're an exception.

A minority maybe, but certainly not an exception. I think the trend of "molestation is a family secret" is ending or at least becoming less popular.

[The Grand Nudger]

That may be so, but the shame and concealment of mental disorders isn't limited to kiddie fucking.  

I'm not on the other side of anything,. here, in thinking that we should just swallow it and get our loved ones the help they need..but..on the other hand., the help they need is often not available, even though the punitive consequences are. Throwing your cousin under the nutbus is more likely to end in punitive measures than useful treatment. Obviously, a problem.....but yet another example of taboo breeding perversion.

My little brother is fucked up. Just to bring it home. He could use some help....the best help he (or I) can expect for him..at present, is simply that I keep his ass contained. I would blow a hard whistle if anyone asked for a non-consequential reference...but I won't commit him nor will I contribute to anything that would lead to him being processed in-system. I do worry, ofc, that if something happens to me...then he'll end up in a situation in which he might hurt someone (or himself, or both)....but I have to weigh that against the certain knowledge that disclosing that information officially will certainly hurt him and..likely, help no one. Too many people, in our current system, are faced with the same decision.

[Edwardo Piet]

That may be so, but the shame and concealment of mental disorders isn't limited to kiddie fucking.  

Pedophilia may indeed be a mental disorder, but "kiddie fucking" is no more of a mental disorder than rape is.

[The Grand Nudger]

........................................... a useless argument.  A disorder is defined as any psychology that negatively impacts your ability to function in society, in your life..as it is.  Kiddie fucking and rape both qualify. Thinking about either is arguably not (hello barely legal pron and surprise painal), but actually being compelled to do so...well, inescapable.

[*Deidre*]

Hey Zilla, I can just hear an Islamic Imam warning that:

IF YOU LEGALISE CHILD SEXBOTS, ONE DAY THEY WILL WANT TO MARRY THEM!

hehe

I think the slippery slope argument here would be more along the lines of: they get a taste of the simulation, now they're more inclined to desire the real thing and act on it.

This was what I was thinking.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I think the slippery slope argument here would be more along the lines of: they get a taste of the simulation, now they're more inclined to desire the real thing and act on it.

This was what I was thinking.

Ready Pervert One?

[Edwardo Piet]

........................................... a useless argument.  A disorder is defined as any psychology that negatively impacts your ability to function in society, in your life..as it is.  Kiddie fucking and rape both qualify.  Thinking about either is arguably not (hello barely legal pron and surprise painal), but actually being compelled to do so...well, inescapable.

Far from a "useless argument": I'm merely being accurate. A disorder isn't just anything under the sun that negatively impacts your ability to function in society, there's far more nuance to it than that (psychiatrists and psychopathologists don't just come up with these things on the spot, pulling them out of their arse at random). Being a serial killer negatively impacts those things, but there is no being-a-serial-killer-disorder: instead there are many different disorders that can indeed increase the likelihood of serial killing.

Pedophillia and child molestation are by no means the same thing. Just as fantasies about raping someone and actually going ahead and raping someone are not the same thing, and murdering a bunch of people and having psychopathy are not the same thing.

My point is that whereas I'll agree that pedophilia is a disorder, actually raping someone whether they're a child or an adult... is not simply a "disorder". The same applies to murder or any other extremely violent crime. There can be many causes of all the most horrible actions, and by brushing it all off as a "disorder" you are not only yourself making a uselessly unsophisticated analysis (if we can even call how you've thought this through an "analysis"), but you're oversimplifying very serious issues.

[*Deidre*]

This was what I was thinking.

Ready Pervert One?

Wtf are you saying?

[Edwardo Piet]

Ready Pervert One?

Wtf are you saying?

I don't get his joke either lol.