Personally I think it's extremely repugnant and disgusting that anyone thinks they can ever justify doing it to a baby unless they have something wrong with their foreskin and it's absolutely medically necessary. I can't understand how anyone can ever justify it religiously with bullshit myths about hygiene (when there's a such thing as washing) STD protection (when there's a such thing as condoms) or the fact they had it done to themselves as a baby (two wrongs don't make a right and they don't actually know what they're missing out on).
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Should circumcision be illegal?
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RE: Should circumcision be illegal?
April 28, 2018 at 7:48 pm
(This post was last modified: April 28, 2018 at 7:56 pm by The Industrial Atheist.)
(April 28, 2018 at 7:15 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:(April 28, 2018 at 7:12 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote: There's a general consensus that flu shots and orthodontics are necessary or at least do more good than harm. This isn't the case with circumcision except in certain cases. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24899259 RESULTS: Approximately one-third (33.2%) of the respondents reported that their current perspective was that the medical benefits outweigh the risks associated with newborn male circumcision and less than one-third (31.1%) reported they would recommend the procedure when counseling parents. -------------------------------- In terms of orthodontics you won't get Orthodontists saying braces don't do more good than harm. At least when they are necessary. But people don't put braces on newborn babies, or even 10 year olds without a good reason. With the flu shot, it's just basic science. If the flu shot makes you sick, I won't make you get a flu shot. But reams of study show that it is helpful. It's a real thing. With circumcision, it's basically: 1)All that skin is nasty yo 2)it helps prevent std's (there are better ways that don't involve permanent body alteration 3)Hygiene (just pull it back and clean it and you're fine) Quote:Is circumcision beneficial? https://doctor.ndtv.com/photo/is-circumc...icial-7561
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April 28, 2018 at 7:54 pm
(This post was last modified: April 28, 2018 at 7:57 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
I mean... the clue is in the fact that it's a body part we evolved to have... of course it's healthy to have it.
You know that thing in between your nose that separates your nostrils? Imagine if people cut that off for some religious bullshit reason and justified it with bullshit about how it makes the nose easier to clean and you can smell better with one big nostril. And they did it to babies without their consent. It's literally as fucked up and crazy as that. It's only a matter of degree. Female circumcision is far worse than male circumcision for example (similar though... in both cases it reduces the person's potential for sexual pleasure). It's just a matter of degree. It's all barbaric. I think it should be made illegal and anyone who does it to a baby without a medically necessary reason should go to prison for child abuse and have their children taken away and given to non-abusive parents. Like I said, Adam was supposedly made in God's image... oh but apart from Adam's foreskin that was a mistake. It's fucking retarded. (April 28, 2018 at 7:14 pm)Alexmahone Wrote:henryp Wrote:Do you think a 10yo should be able to refuse orthodontics? So if kids don't want shots you shouldn't give them their shots?? Lol, I wouldn't gotten any in that case, I hated needles when I was a kid.
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Yup it should be it's the involuntary mutilation of someones anatomy
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Inuit Proverb (April 28, 2018 at 7:54 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:Quote:Is circumcision beneficial? That may be true, but they aren't actually treating a medical problem, except in the case of those whose foreskin is too tight. You could argue that it's preventative, like the flu shot, but the flu shot doesn't permanently alter anyone's body unless you count the immune response. (April 28, 2018 at 8:16 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote:(April 28, 2018 at 7:54 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: https://doctor.ndtv.com/photo/is-circumc...icial-7561 Don't think I don't see your personal perspective clouding your reasonable judgement.
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April 28, 2018 at 8:41 pm
(This post was last modified: April 28, 2018 at 8:48 pm by brewer.)
(April 28, 2018 at 7:14 pm)Alexmahone Wrote: Unless there is an imminent life-threatening situation, I don't like the idea of using physical force against children. So.............. this should not be treated??? It's not life threatening.
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(April 28, 2018 at 8:41 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:I think he mean medically necessary(April 28, 2018 at 7:14 pm)Alexmahone Wrote: Unless there is an imminent life-threatening situation, I don't like the idea of using physical force against children.
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