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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
So you admit that god is a fictional creation of the mind, got it.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(April 21, 2019 at 10:17 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(April 21, 2019 at 10:10 am)madog Wrote: The man is highly credible based on his credentials.   

Did you watch the video?  ... The guy offers nothing towards the understanding of abiogenisis, .... his own words quote:- 'Nobody knows how that is done  ... nobody  .... '

He never offered anything as regards intelligent design, infact he doesn't even believe in ID

Anyone can point out what is not yet known in peer reviewed science, what was the point of his video?

I didn't listen to it all the way through.  I was only commenting on his credentials.  They are solid.  The video is good so far from what I have seen.
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Credentials for what? ... he spent an hour stating what is not yet known .... when he actually offers something new that is the time to check if his credentials make him credible to make claims.

The guy is not qualified as regards creation/evolution .....
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(April 21, 2019 at 10:17 am)CDF47 Wrote: I didn't listen to it all the way through.  I was only commenting on his credentials.  They are solid. 
what credentials, the degree in electronics engineering?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(April 19, 2019 at 1:23 am)CDF47 Wrote: Dying is part of this fallen world.  Disease is one way in which we die.  It is the intent of the design.

No it isn't.
Dying is part of life, and always has been. 
There is no evidence of a "fallen world". 

I specifically asked you about Huntington's Disease. People LIVE A LIFETIME with Huntington's.
Why does your Jebus relegate a few people, who have done nothing to deserve it, to a horrible life ? 
Your god is not just, AND what may happen later is no justification for imposing diseases on the undeserving.  

Get a new hobby. You're not up to this.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(April 21, 2019 at 9:43 am)CDF47 Wrote: Pardon CDF47?

 Please expand upon my attacking some one's credibility?

I am explaining/pointing out that if some one is making a statment outside of their feild of expertise then their knowledge about said subject is on par with 'Other' folk.

If two experts in a particular subject talk about something then I, for one, hope to learn something simply by listening in on their discussion.

So, CDF47. You've stated before about your own back ground, yes?

Would it be fair of me to ask you to finely detail the internal gubbins of a high-tech rocket engine? Would I expect you to be able to succinctly explain all of the minute, detailed workings of said system?

The man is highly credible based on his credentials.  It was a gut reaction on here to attack his credentials though like every other scientist that speaks out.  Then the whole ID thing got drug around again for the millionth time.


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  The first part of your reply makes me question your credentials, CDF47... but lets move on.

I am NOT and have not 'Questioned his credentials'.

What I have stated, multiple times now, is that he is talking about somthing outside of his particular field of knowledge.

It is this point that yourself CDF47 and G G seem to want avoid actually replying to or talking about when ever I ask or bring up an example.

G G is now conflating abiogenesis with evolution.

Once some one starts using this kind of language... well the reader is left with only a few choices as to the reason for such confusion.

But we'll let G G reply again in thread and else where to see where such speculation may lead.

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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(April 21, 2019 at 8:59 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(April 21, 2019 at 2:38 am)Guard of Guardians Wrote: Why would that need a defense?  There has to be a good objection first.  Even the simplest of living organisms is almost incomprehensibly complex, and we have no direct evidence that early life was massively less complex as you suggest.  In any case, DNA ultimately represents information, though people will fall all over themselves to deny such an obvious reality.  And of course, information only originates from mind(s).  It's all fairly straight forward, no matter how much time and effort is fruitlessly spent attempting to muddy up those clear waters.

Agreed.  Glad to see you post.

(April 21, 2019 at 2:55 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: "Watch this youboob" is never an explanation for anything. Such an argument simply illustrates your ignorance. You are to thick to even attempt to explain anything. Anyway, for the sake of completeness, let us reread the OP.

Lie.
Hyperbole. It's chemistry.

False analogy. Another lie.

Lie. DNA does not have a "spine". 

Sure, I could call you a mushroom and then it would be true to claim that you have been likened to a mushroom. It would also be a horribly dishonest claim to make, yet you have no problem doing exactly that. Why?

This is a lie. None of it is remotely associated with truth. Whatever device you are using to post here proves you wrong.

So there you go, your OP was a load of cack handed bullshit claims and lies. No explanation was given because you have none.

Did you somehow think we would forget? Or that we couldn't look it up?

What a moron.

You didn't really argue one point here.

So we can chalk up basic literacy as yet another topic of which you are ignorant. OK.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(April 21, 2019 at 10:31 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(April 21, 2019 at 10:19 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Didn't I specifically mention that I wasn't interested in your half baked arguments?  I;m wondering where the notion originated.  An attribution to source.
Do you know?

The only known cause of information is the mind.  That is all there can be.

In a thread chock full of stupid things, that takes the cake..and still I'm as unconcerned with why you believe stupid shit as I was before.  I'm trying to source it, so, rather than assert stupid shit, just point to wherever you first heard or saw the phrase uttered so that I can get a little closer to what I'm asking about?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
How did the god or whatever put the information in DNA?
What process did it use?
Where did it get the stuff?

I hear the phrase "its obvious" far too often and always seems to be an attempt to try to move things on without actually giving evidence for whatever they are trying to present.



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(April 21, 2019 at 10:40 am)Kit Wrote: So you admit that god is a fictional creation of the mind, got it.

Far from it.

(April 21, 2019 at 10:42 am)madog Wrote:
(April 21, 2019 at 10:17 am)CDF47 Wrote: Did you watch the video?  ... The guy offers nothing towards the understanding of abiogenisis, .... his own words quote:- 'Nobody knows how that is done  ... nobody  .... '

He never offered anything as regards intelligent design, infact he doesn't even believe in ID

Anyone can point out what is not yet known in peer reviewed science, what was the point of his video?

I didn't listen to it all the way through.  I was only commenting on his credentials.  They are solid.  The video is good so far from what I have seen.

Credentials for what? ... he spent an hour stating what is not yet known .... when he actually offers something new that is the time to check if his credentials make him credible to make claims.

The guy is not qualified as regards creation/evolution .....
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His credentials are stated early in the thread and they are great for the subject matter at hand.

(April 21, 2019 at 11:26 am)Bucky Ball Wrote:
(April 19, 2019 at 1:23 am)CDF47 Wrote: Dying is part of this fallen world.  Disease is one way in which we die.  It is the intent of the design.

No it isn't.
Dying is part of life, and always has been. 
There is no evidence of a "fallen world". 

I specifically asked you about Huntington's Disease. People LIVE A LIFETIME with Huntington's.
Why does your Jebus relegate a few people, who have done nothing to deserve it, to a horrible life ? 
Your god is not just, AND what may happen later is no justification for imposing diseases on the undeserving.  

Get a new hobby. You're not up to this.

The rain falls on the just and the un-just alike.

(April 21, 2019 at 12:52 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:
(April 21, 2019 at 10:31 am)CDF47 Wrote: The only known cause of information is the mind.  That is all there can be.

In a thread chock full of stupid things, that takes the cake..and still I'm as unconcerned with why you believe stupid shit as I was before.  I'm trying to source it, so, rather than assert stupid shit, just point to wherever you first heard or saw the phrase uttered so that I can get a little closer to what I'm asking about?

I feel the same about your blinded opinions.

(April 21, 2019 at 1:55 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: How did the god or whatever put the information in DNA?
What process did it use?
Where did it get the stuff?

I hear the phrase "its obvious" far too often and always seems to be an attempt to try to move things on without actually giving evidence for whatever they are trying to present.

He placed it there in a simple manner.  All stuff was purchased at Home Depot.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(April 21, 2019 at 1:59 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

His credentials are stated early in the thread and they are great for the subject matter at hand.



Great, then you can explain the subject matter and how his credentials are relevant to the subject matter
Religion is the top shelf of the supernatural supermarket ... Madog
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