DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[downbeatplumb]

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How does this "god" implement the "plan"?
What is the technique?
What things does it use?

His will is His divine plan.  He implements His plan through His divine providence. 

What does that mean?
What does its divine providence look like?
If it interacts it must have some sort of physical manifestation, what is it?

He is in control of the world although He allows free will choices for humans to either accept Him as their God or not.

How is it in charge?
What are the processes?
What does it use in these processes?

[CDF47]

Take your ridicule and shove it.

Well, you are an idiot and respecting your world view leads to the conclusion only god could have made you so.   Maybe you were from the wrong sperm and paying the price for your parents’ or grand parents’ free will.

Science supports that the universe and living systems are created so I am right on this one.  From there I believe in the Christian God of the Bible like 31 percent of the world.  Matthew 5:22 "But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire." This is in regards to unrighteous anger.

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How does this "god" implement the "plan"?
What is the technique?
What things does it use?

His will is His divine plan.  He implements His plan through His divine providence. 

What does that mean?
What does its divine providence look like?
If it interacts it must have some sort of physical manifestation, what is it?

He is in control of the world although He allows free will choices for humans to either accept Him as their God or not.

How is it in charge?
What are the processes?
What does it use in these processes?

His divine plan of who is saved and who is not.  The mysteries of the Lord.  He has and can manifest Himself as He wills.
He spiritually is in control of everything.  He holds every molecule of the world together.

[Abaddon_ire]

Oh yes you are. You suggested that my eldest was trans because of any sins of mine. It only works that way in the holey babble. Nowhere else. You had the arrogance to suggest that my child might be trans because of some imagined sin. That is sickening.

It is. Ever since he came out with his actual gender, he has never been happier. The school, a catholic school, has been nothing but supportive. His peers have been nothing but supportive. Nobody but you has suggested killing the fucker.

What Lord? I remain astonished that my kids have seen right through this nonsense since they figured out santa.

You are a sick individual. You have argued that slavery is moral, that butchering children is moral, that butchering rape victims is moral and so on. You WANT to kill my children because that is what your imaginary sky fairy tells you what to do. You WANT to kill me because that is what your sky fairy tells you what to do. You have abdicated any sense of human decency in favour of your magic book.

You are so far down that rabbit hole that you are unable to condemn slavery. When backed into a corner on that issue, all you have to rely on is claiming that bible slavery is benign, even though your very own holey babble tells you it is OK to beat your slaves to within an inch of their lives so long as they survive a couple of days. If they die from your beating on the third day? That's OK.

Do you disgust me? You have no idea.

All defects and problems and struggles are due to sin was my point.  I wasn't trying to put you down.  Sorry if you feel that way.

I don't suggest killing him.

OK.

Sorry you feel that way.  I don't hold a grudge against you.

No that ship has sailed. You have nailed your colours to the mast. Too late to back out now.

I know exactly what you are and it is not a pretty picture. 

You do not dedicate yourself to a god of love, but rather a god of hate and bile. 

You have hinted at such for a long time, but now you have painted the picture. 

You are done.

[robvalue]

He's defending an awful lot of heinous stuff just because it's in the bible, but it's also clear he hasn't actually read it because most of what he says about it is wrong.

The fact that I know it's wrong mean I know "god's word" better than he does, which means he can't really value it very highly. I've never even been a Christian.

[CDF47]

All defects and problems and struggles are due to sin was my point.  I wasn't trying to put you down.  Sorry if you feel that way.

I don't suggest killing him.

OK.

Sorry you feel that way.  I don't hold a grudge against you.

No that ship has sailed. You have nailed your colours to the mast. Too late to back out now.

I know exactly what you are and it is not a pretty picture. 

You do not dedicate yourself to a god of love, but rather a god of hate and bile. 

You have hinted at such for a long time, but now you have painted the picture. 

You are done.

Just saying, I did not intend to put you down is all.  That is the truth.  We all sin.  I sure haven't been perfect in my life.

God hates evil and I hate evil.  That is the only hatred God has.  I try to make that my only hatred as well but I struggle in my heart because I am a sinner.

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He's defending an awful lot of heinous stuff just because it's in the bible, but it's also clear he hasn't actually read it because most of what he says about it is wrong.

The fact that I know it's wrong mean I know "god's word" better than he does, which means he can't really value it very highly. I've never even been a Christian.

I read the entire Bible cover to cover.  I also study the Bible all the time.  I read commentaries and I belong to two Christian forums. I use to attend church every week but then I realized the corruption in the Catholic church and I left. Then I studied with some SDAs and realized the corruption there and I left. Now I am looking for a new church to attend weekly. I also went to Catholic high school and studied there. I was raised Catholic from birth to the age of 35 when I converted to non-denominational Christian and more along the lines of Protestant.

[Silver]

Just saying, I did not intend to put you down is all.  That is the truth.  We all sin.  I sure haven't been perfect in my life.

God hates evil and I hate evil.  That is the only hatred God has.  I try to make that my only hatred as well but I struggle in my heart because I am a sinner.

Sin is invented nonsense and morality is heinously monopolized by religion.

God is a perfect fiction for the gullible minded, nothing more.

[CDF47]

Just saying, I did not intend to put you down is all.  That is the truth.  We all sin.  I sure haven't been perfect in my life.

God hates evil and I hate evil.  That is the only hatred God has.  I try to make that my only hatred as well but I struggle in my heart because I am a sinner.

Sin is invented nonsense and morality is heinously monopolized by religion.  

God is a perfect fiction for the gullible minded, nothing more.

The Bible is the ultimate guide on morality.  Love God and neighbor are the two main commandments which all the other commandments come from.  The Ten Commandments come from those two greatest commandments.

[downbeatplumb]

Well, you are an idiot and respecting your world view leads to the conclusion only god could have made you so.   Maybe you were from the wrong sperm and paying the price for your parents’ or grand parents’ free will.

Science supports that the universe and living systems are created so I am right on this one.  From there I believe in the Christian God of the Bible like 31 percent of the world.  Matthew 5:22 "But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire."  This is in regards to unrighteous anger.

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His divine plan of who is saved and who is not.  The mysteries of the Lord.  He has and can manifest Himself as He wills.
He spiritually is in control of everything.  He holds every molecule of the world together.

How does his "spiritual control" work?
What are the mechanisms and where is the evidence for these mechanisms?
You say he holds every molecule together. How?

You say somethings are "the mysteries of the lord", is this the same as saying you don't know?

[Silver]

The Bible is the ultimate guide on morality.  Love God and neighbor are the two main commandments which all the other commandments come from.  The Ten Commandments come from those two greatest commandments.

Poppycock!

[CDF47]

Science supports that the universe and living systems are created so I am right on this one.  From there I believe in the Christian God of the Bible like 31 percent of the world.  Matthew 5:22 "But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire."  This is in regards to unrighteous anger.

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His divine plan of who is saved and who is not.  The mysteries of the Lord.  He has and can manifest Himself as He wills.
He spiritually is in control of everything.  He holds every molecule of the world together.

How does his "spiritual control" work?
What are the mechanisms and where is the evidence for these mechanisms?
You say he holds every molecule together. How?

You say somethings are "the mysteries of the lord", is this the same as saying you don't know?

That is a mystery.  He is in control of every molecule in the universe.  We are sinners in the hand of an angry God but a loving God as well.

Science shows we were created.  His handiwork can be seen in the cell and in the creation of the universe and in people.

Because He is almighty.

Some things I do not know.  They are mysteries.  The Lord is a mysterious Lord.

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The Bible is the ultimate guide on morality.  Love God and neighbor are the two main commandments which all the other commandments come from.  The Ten Commandments come from those two greatest commandments.

Poppycock!

Truth!