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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 21, 2018 at 5:14 pm
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(November 21, 2018 at 5:02 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: (November 21, 2018 at 4:41 pm)Everena Wrote: I already told you that I do not know and no one knows. Also, I do care and do not think it matters at all. For all we know, science could be wrong about space time.
You don't know what you believe? Actually, I don't find that hard to believe at all. As noted, if you don't know and have no justification for believing one way or the other, your objections to Krauss, including the one you keep reposting, fail to show that they are necessarily wrong, according to your beliefs and knowledge on the matter.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 21, 2018 at 5:14 pm
I usually come here to feel in contact with the universe. No matter how many fuckups, mistakes, general human errors you might incurr... Things are never too bleak considering all the special brands around here.
Anyone here ever read on the Dunning Kruger effect?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 21, 2018 at 5:17 pm
(November 21, 2018 at 5:11 pm)Everena Wrote: (November 21, 2018 at 5:08 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Actually that's a total misrepresentation of billions of believers.
Christians do not find FAITH as the result of "logic".
1. She never said which logic system she uses, and why she chose that one.
2. The notion that ultimate reality is "logical" ("intuitive") has been debunked ... Relativity, Uncertainty, Quantum Mechanics
3. "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—" ... NOT "logic".
She doesn't speak for believers. She's a little woo-meister who speaks ONLY for herself ... a cult of one.
You wish that were true. Oh how you wish that were true. 93% of the world is united in our God belief and we all share very similiar beliefs as I have already pointed out and proven numerous times. You pretending something different will not ever make the reality of it any different. We know our beliefs are based on clear and very obvious logic.
She doesn't speak for believers. She's a little woo-meister who speaks ONLY for herself ... a cult of one.
There is NOT ONE of the world religions that buys the woo she's peddling here ... yet she (dishonestly) aligns herself with them. They would REJECT her as one of them.
Her dishonest attempt at inclusion in the 93 % is false, (as well as a fallacy ... perpetrated by one claiming "logic" LMAO
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 21, 2018 at 5:20 pm
(November 21, 2018 at 4:23 pm)Everena Wrote: (November 21, 2018 at 3:00 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I just posted 4. Which is more than zero.
There are many more look em up. Heres a run down of a few.
However you want think that the ideas even exist, even though I have shown you the evidence right there. The ideas are a crock of shit. None of them are possible without an intelligent agent. You are just gullible.
No, none of the ideas needed an intelligent agent.
Look at them again, not one mentions a designer or intelligence.
Just because you seem to need one does not make it so.
What I think is that there is a certain type of person that simply can't envision a universe that is not driven by some purpose.
It is the like when you toddlers see fish in the sea they think the sea is FOR fish to live in and if the sea has a purpose then something set the purpose and made the sea.
Most people grow out of that phase when they leave the toddler years, but some don't.
I know how you think. You are one of "Those".
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 21, 2018 at 5:21 pm
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(November 21, 2018 at 5:10 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: (November 21, 2018 at 5:09 pm)Everena Wrote: Yes atheists do seem to have their own strange brand of logic and made up definitions of what logic really is. Oh yeah, that's what we do. We do it sooo hard, pretty much all of the time.
Everena: Really???????
Quote:Our defense of God is solid and is the only logical conclusion anyone would ever make. You either do not see it that way, or you pretend not to see it that way to fit your own twisted worldview and that is fine. Live and let live. You are just as entitiled to your own beliefs as I am.
What defense would that be, and who's this "our" you include yourself in? A significant portion of the world would burn you for a witch, lol.
Everena: I don't think so.
In any case, no ones telling you that you aren't entitled to your own beliefs. You're being consistently reminded that you are not entitled to your own facts.
Everena: You all make these statements about me and then none of you have ever once been able to come up with one single example to back up your lies. What are you claiming are "my own facts?" (crickets)
Obvs...thats a twisted atheist logic rule that I just made up, so, feel free to disregard.
Everena: Done
(November 21, 2018 at 5:17 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: (November 21, 2018 at 5:11 pm)Everena Wrote: You wish that were true. Oh how you wish that were true. 93% of the world is united in our God belief and we all share very similiar beliefs as I have already pointed out and proven numerous times. You pretending something different will not ever make the reality of it any different. We know our beliefs are based on clear and very obvious logic.
She doesn't speak for believers. She's a little woo-meister who speaks ONLY for herself ... a cult of one.
There is NOT ONE of the world religions that buys the woo she's peddling here ... yet she (dishonestly) aligns herself with them. They would REJECT her as one of them.
Her dishonest attempt at inclusion in the 93 % is false, (as well as a fallacy ... perpetrated by one claiming "logic" LMAO Everena: Wrong! Every believer I have ever met (hundreds btw) have been very open, kind and accepting of my beliefs. You all pretend everyone is so Orthodox, and hardly anyone is anymore.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 21, 2018 at 5:26 pm
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(November 21, 2018 at 5:17 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: (November 21, 2018 at 5:11 pm)Everena Wrote: You wish that were true. Oh how you wish that were true. 93% of the world is united in our God belief and we all share very similiar beliefs as I have already pointed out and proven numerous times. You pretending something different will not ever make the reality of it any different. We know our beliefs are based on clear and very obvious logic.
She doesn't speak for believers. She's a little woo-meister who speaks ONLY for herself ... a cult of one.
There is NOT ONE of the world religions that buys the woo she's peddling here ... yet she (dishonestly) aligns herself with them. They would REJECT her as one of them.
Her dishonest attempt at inclusion in the 93 % is false, (as well as a fallacy ... perpetrated by one claiming "logic" LMAO
If she is content to be a cult of one, she would not be here trying to browbeat other for 500+ posts. She clearly has serious psychiatric and social behavioral issues along with cognitive and educational deficiencies.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 21, 2018 at 5:27 pm
(November 21, 2018 at 5:21 pm)Everena Wrote: (November 21, 2018 at 5:10 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Oh yeah, that's what we do. We do it sooo hard, pretty much all of the time.
Everena: Really???????
What defense would that be, and who's this "our" you include yourself in? A significant portion of the world would burn you for a witch, lol.
Everena: I don't think so.
In any case, no ones telling you that you aren't entitled to your own beliefs. You're being consistently reminded that you are not entitled to your own facts.
Everena: You all make these statements about me and then none of you have ever once been able to come up with one single example to back up your lies. What are you claiming are "my own facts?" (crickets)
Obvs...thats a twisted atheist logic rule that I just made up, so, feel free to disregard.
Everena: Done
(November 21, 2018 at 5:17 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: She doesn't speak for believers. She's a little woo-meister who speaks ONLY for herself ... a cult of one.
There is NOT ONE of the world religions that buys the woo she's peddling here ... yet she (dishonestly) aligns herself with them. They would REJECT her as one of them.
Her dishonest attempt at inclusion in the 93 % is false, (as well as a fallacy ... perpetrated by one claiming "logic" LMAO Everena: Wrong! Every believer I have ever met (hundreds btw) have been very open, kind and accepting of my beliefs. You all pretend everyone is so Orthodox, and hardly anyone is anymore.
LOL
Little woo-meister doesn't even KNOW the basic tenets of any of the major religions.
She's a cult of one.
Christians (billions of them) do not claim "logic" as the basis of their faith.
So much for this little heretic ...
on to the next troll.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 21, 2018 at 5:27 pm
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(November 21, 2018 at 5:21 pm)Everena Wrote: [quote='Gae Bolga' pid='1855850' dateline='1542834643']
Oh yeah, that's what we do. We do it sooo hard, pretty much all of the time.
Everena: Really??????? Oh, yeah..for sure, I wake up every morning, and after I reaffirm my belief in poof magic, I immediately start thinking up logical rules just to fuck with you.
That's just fact check: true!
Quote:What defense would that be, and who's this "our" you include yourself in? A significant portion of the world would burn you for a witch, lol.
Everena: I don't think so.
Yet another thing added to the gargantuan pile of things you're wrong about, I guess?
Quote:In any case, no ones telling you that you aren't entitled to your own beliefs. You're being consistently reminded that you are not entitled to your own facts.
Everena: You all make these statements about me and then none of you have ever once been able to come up with one single example to back up your lies. What are you claiming are "my own facts?" (crickets)
Nothing in particular..just all of them.
Quote: Obvs...thats a twisted atheist logic rule that I just made up, so, feel free to disregard.
Everena: Done
I knew you would. See...I have a crystal ball too!
Are you really back to pretending that you can't fucking quote..again?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 21, 2018 at 5:29 pm
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(November 21, 2018 at 5:14 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I usually come here to feel in contact with the universe. No matter how many fuckups, mistakes, general human errors you might incurr... Things are never too bleak considering all the special brands around here.
Anyone here ever read on the Dunning Kruger effect?
Quite the mix of personalities...
Have a Happy Thanksgiving!
(November 21, 2018 at 5:27 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: (November 21, 2018 at 5:10 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Oh yeah, that's what we do. We do it sooo hard, pretty much all of the time.
Everena: Really???????
(November 21, 2018 at 5:21 pm)Everena Wrote: You knew I was right from the very first day I was in here. Happy Thanksgiving!
[quote='downbeatplumb' pid='1855860' dateline='1542835246']
[quote='Everena' pid='1855783' dateline='1542831797']
The ideas are a crock of shit. None of them are possible without an intelligent agent. You are just gullible.
No, none of the ideas needed an intelligent agent.
Look at them again, not one mentions a designer or intelligence.
Just because you seem to need one does not make it so.
What I think is that there is a certain type of person that simply can't envision a universe that is not driven by some purpose.
It is the like when you toddlers see fish in the sea they think the sea is FOR fish to live in and if the sea has a purpose then something set the purpose and made the sea.
Most people grow out of that phase when they leave the toddler years, but some don't.
I know how you think. You are one of "Those". Wrong. It's more along the lines of:
The entire universe and all conscious life just magically appearing from nothing or from an inanimate object, for no reason and with no intelligence involved, makes absolutely no sense.
(November 21, 2018 at 5:27 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: (November 21, 2018 at 5:21 pm)Everena Wrote:
Everena: Wrong! Every believer I have ever met (hundreds btw) have been very open, kind and accepting of my beliefs. You all pretend everyone is so Orthodox, and hardly anyone is anymore.
LOL
Little woo-meister doesn't even KNOW the basic tenets of any of the major religions.
She's a cult of one.
Christians (billions of them) do not claim "logic" as the basis of their faith.
So much for this little heretic ...
on to the next troll.
Wrong! They all believe in the logic of it. What do the think the Christian who posted this thread was trying to tell you??!??!?
(November 21, 2018 at 5:27 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: (November 21, 2018 at 5:21 pm)Everena Wrote: [quote='Gae Bolga' pid='1855850' dateline='1542834643']
Oh yeah, that's what we do. We do it sooo hard, pretty much all of the time.
Everena: Really??????? Oh, yeah..for sure, I wake up every morning, and after I reaffirm my belief in poof magic, I immediately start thinking up logical rules just to fuck with you. That's just fact check: true!
Everena: Perhaps you should stop believing in poof magic then, and accept that higher intelligence is the only thing that makes any sense.
Quote:What defense would that be, and who's this "our" you include yourself in? A significant portion of the world would burn you for a witch, lol.
Everena: I don't think so.
Yet another thing added to the gargantuan pile of things you're wrong about, I guess?
Everena: They would not burn me.......
Quote:In any case, no ones telling you that you aren't entitled to your own beliefs. You're being consistently reminded that you are not entitled to your own facts.
Everena: You all make these statements about me and then none of you have ever once been able to come up with one single example to back up your lies. What are you claiming are "my own facts?" (crickets)
Nothing in particular..just all of them.
Quote: Obvs...thats a twisted atheist logic rule that I just made up, so, feel free to disregard.
Everena: Done
I knew you would. See...I have a crystal ball too!
Are you really back to pretending that you can't fucking quote..again?
Everena: I'm just rushing because I have to go start preparing for the relatives to come. Lots of cleaning and food prep to do. Have a nice Thanksgiving.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 21, 2018 at 6:17 pm
LOL, Trash poster is trash. Clean that junk up and then I'll make fun of it some more.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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